Where do I go from here?
how 'bout this. 'whereever the hell you wanna go' You're an adult, you can go anywhere.
It took me a long time to realize that I'm only responsible for myself...and I do a damn good job of it.
lisa
friends:.
long time lurker, very occasional poster.
i have done the fade thing for 4 years now, and have not attended a meeting in over 2 years.
Where do I go from here?
how 'bout this. 'whereever the hell you wanna go' You're an adult, you can go anywhere.
It took me a long time to realize that I'm only responsible for myself...and I do a damn good job of it.
lisa
three simple but very powerful words .
my son and i working together last night on my jobs talked about this very subject.
i told him that although my witness mom was always affectionate , and tells me and my siblings she loves us , my elder father has only told me that he loves me once or twice , if that - my entire life.
my parents were never affectionate, I'm guessin' that their parents weren't either. No hugs, no kisses. just didn't happen.
From a young age, I knew I wanted my kids to always know I'd be there for them no matter what. My kids are now 23 and 27, I tell them everyday that I love them. I hug and/or them at every oppertunity, public or at home. My grandkids are even more loving than my children..the cycle is broken.
I love the sound of my kids and grandchildren coming in my door and saying.."Mom I'm home!!"
lisa
some folks have been checking on me, some have been worried that i am upset with them because all of the sudden i am off the planet except for a hi here and there..if that.
so i thought i should let my friends here know that i am ok, and say thanks for caring...it helps a lot.. a while back i posted about some things that had been happening in my life, some hopeful, as well as some difficulties.
everything has become more complicated and hurried, and there is a huge game of chess being played in so many areas of my life i need to step back and focus, really focus to make sure i do what i need to do and still be someone i can face in the mirror.
WLG..you need to read Eckart Tolle's "THE POWER OF NOW".
I hope things work out in your favor.
You hurry on back now, ya hear?
lisa
intervention and then, if necessary, decisive action ... on behalf of an individual whose state of mind and behavior do not align with what is deemed acceptable by society (or "the" society).
looking back from your current vantage point, are you now less likely to give advice or - worst case scenario - get involved in saving someone from him- or herself?
when would you intervene?
I think it would depend on the issues and the kind of relationship I had with that person. . Are they in an abusive relationship, are they abusing drugs or driving drunk? I'd get involved.
If it's about my kids smoking, um..I mention it. They go outside if they don't want to hear it.
If they were doing anything I thought was dangerous, I would say something.
If it was someone I worked with, or a neighbor, I might or might not get involved.
Oh...and if it's my husband..well, he lives with me,...he already knows he's gonna hear about it.
lisa
for anyone that looks at this thread, could you write something either profound or simply interesting so as to make the reader see the truth about "the truth"?
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The JWs often cannot answer a question without quoting from the Watchtower or some other of their society’s publications. JW responses to questions about their faith often result in avoiding the question being asked and telling others to read their watchtower web site.
A JW believes the strangest and most unbelievable parts of the bible to be LITERALLY true.
JW's can not see, it proves nothing when an organization says they are right because they SAY SO.
A so called conscience matter....Is really JW written material with the scriptural principles that would heavily encourage you to their line of thinking highlighted.
lisa
was there a point in leaving the organization where you did something that demonstrated that you had officially made your decision to leave?
for me, i think it's going to be when i vote in the general election this year.
it will be my first action in public against jw doctrine.
pretty much the same as OO12, The lack of love from the congration, and more importantly, my own parents was too much for me. When I was asked to take my 2yr old outside because he was disturbing those around me,..I just packed up myself, my 2yrs old and my 7 year old and we left. screw them..there are people that love spending time with me.
lisa
if you don't remember my move out 3 months well, long story short, things weren't working out for my roommate and i, and we found someone to take my place.
he signed the papers, and i moved out.
he backed out of the agreement, and so my ex-roommate is left paying all of the rent.
my turn, ...so this is my take on it.
Mom had to pay off this debt for her son, the kid that took over your lease, but he didn't follow though on his oblications. and now mom is trying to get her money back, by having a friend of the families do some free legal work for her.
how close am I?
lisa
here is the hypothetical question of the day - would you, or more appropriately, could you live forever in paradise on earth with jw's?
with the hypocrosy, silly elders, silly people... feeding lions and cleaning up after animals... everyone living by waterfalls, like the jw's always portray in they're psychotic pamphlets..... or would you rather be dead.
i, personally, would much rather be dead.
I remember feeling rather sick when someone told me we would still have to attend meetings in the paradise.
lisa
i'm curious.
has anyone been taken out of their parents and/or relatives 'will' because of leaving the jw's?
outaservice
hm...who knows? I really can't imagine them having anything I'd want.
lisa
yup, my father in law has been baptized over 50 years.
he is a genuine christian person.
he bases all of his advise in the bible.
I watched a court show yesterday, a women wrote a letter and left it with a neighbor saying if anything happens to me, "please look for signs of murder, I would never kill mymyself. and I suspect my husband is trying to kill me." It took nine years, but they finally convicted the husband of her murder.
lisa