Posts by lisavegas420

i was when i had an affair , but this elders pioneer daughter told me she understood why i had done it , i was feeling dreadfull and so guilt ridden but he said i should through myself at my hubs feet and beg forgiveness from him and had i lived 2000 years ago i would have been stoned to death !

the strange thing is a few years later this elder told me he had feelings for me , but he was married and old enough to be my dad , although i liked him as a person by then and had forgotten what he had said to me about being stoned to death, i was a bit annoyed that he told me not to tell anyone ,and yet was telling other people to tattle tale on others , i know he felt really bad about his feelings though and i did feel sorry for him , but asked him not to visit anymore as it made me feel guilty towards his wife , maybe it was gods way of getting him to see things from a wrong doers point of view ,as he had a reputation for being very harsh on wrong doers (like myself) maybe he makes a better elder nowadays after that insight , or maybe they think i was sent by satan to seduce a pioneer and an elder !

lisavegas420

during my first two disfellowshipping I was told that I would have been stoned to death if I had lived in biblical times by the elder in charge. the first time, it made me incredibly sad, the second time, it made me mad. he also told me not to even bother praying as Jehovah doesn't listen to prayers of disfellowshipped sinners. I didn't either...even though I knew he was full of shit.

lisa

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My life - A brief history. Part 1

by Galileo in

this post has gotten quite long so i decided to break it up into at least two sections.

i hope it doesnt come across as rambling.

i should start with a confession: it was my smurf that walked out of the kingdom hall in the early 80's.

lisavegas420

how cool! Welcome and thank you for sharing. I can't wait for the rest of the story.

lisa

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Told My Mom- "Dad's Got Too Much Load on Him as a 82 Year Old Elder "

by flipper in

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this is kind of a secondary thread to the one i started about my conversation with my mom the other day about the bethel thing with my older brother !

so, my mom starts talking with me about my dad 82, an elder in the congregation for 53 years being drained and exhausted , and stressed as he has no help in his book study he conducts !

as some of you know , my sister, who lives near my parents just had a stroke , and my mom and dad have been having to help her out with her house, feed the cat while she is in physical therapy - and drive down an hour one way to see my sister in physical therapy , a lot to do for them being 80 and 82 !

lisavegas420

This is exactly the lack of love that finally pushed me over the edge. When I met my never-a-JW husband's family. I saw a hugh difference in how their church treated members.

For instance, on one occasion when I was there for a visit, after church service, they had (for lack of a better word) field service meeting, which mostly was the women and a few men, met after church to talk about those that needed assistance during the upcoming week. Those that needed food, rides to dr's, groceries, or just a friendly visit, (which always included bringing over a meal or a desert), also they arranged for someone to visit people that were sick or in the hospital...every day...not just one day. Then they divided up the 'territory' and off they went. A car full, or one or two alone. Every member was cared for in the way that they needed care.

lisa

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Discipline

by LouBelle in

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i'm not a parent myself, so i'm only speaking from my own personal experiences as a child and as an observer.. do you or don't you believe in discipline?

i believe in it - i'm not talking beating your kid to a pulp or any verbal abuse like that.

i do believe that a smack, grounding and an explanation of why is not a bad thing if the child has misbehaved (not for some trivial thing either).

lisavegas420

Now when I observe children throwing tantrums, screaming verbal abuse at their parents and the parents just keep trying to "shush" the child, I shake my head and think to myself that these parents are being far too soft and a smack on the bum is needed. If there is no discipline children may grow up into disrespectful teens that may grow up into adults that can't be bothered about the fellow human, law, nor take responsibilty for the actions and so on.

When my son threw tantums and screaming, it was because some situations, people, lights, smells, feels, freaked him out. So he acted out. My choices were to get though what I needed to do as quickly as possible, or leave. Eventurally, I did have to get groceries, or whatever.

When I see kids acting uncontrollably, I ask if there's anything I can do to help. Sometimes, just the distraction and knowing that people are watching him, was just enough to change his acting out...for a minute.

lisa

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How do you deal with co-workers?

by anewme in

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as a witness i only worked with other witnesses for 35 years.

now thrust out into the real world i find myself unprepared .

for many of the confrontations i am experiencing with fellow .

lisavegas420

Yeah...the whatever along with some eyerolling works great. Sometimes, with the younger ones, you just have to raise your eyebrows..and say "what the hell are you talking about".

but...if you are going home and crying...and are spending half of your evening miserable, it's time to move on. Life's way too short for that nonsense.

I try to make people laugh. It's hard to stay upset if you're laughing. Oh and chocolate works nicely too.

lisa

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Talk with My Mom - My Elder brother Explains Bethel Changes to Her

by flipper in

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talked with my witness mom, 80 years old this morning - and apparently she is pretty stoked up about the bs my ex- bethel brother ( a cloned elder of 35 years ) said to her about all the changes at bethel going on.

obviously he still has inside ties at bethel.

to avoid being redundant ( as i know most of you have heard some of this stuff ), my mom explained to me that my brother told her , " they are selling off most of the buildings in brooklyn as in the next 3 years they plan to move the entire operation to patterson and upstate new york.

lisavegas420

*great big sigh*....It's probably better my parents don't talk to me...I'd never be able to keep my mouth shut. And even if I was able to keep my lips tight together, I'm sure my eyes would be rolling around in my head.

lisa

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Breastfeeding not allowed.

by The Scotsman in

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shocker at the group last week..... i was at the group last week (1st in about 4 weeks) and the conductor (the p.o.

) takes a sister aside and tells her that she was not allowed to breastfeed her baby before or after the book study because "someone" found it awkward.. hmm, i wonder if it was him that found it awkward.. anyway the twist in the story is that the group meets at her house.

the sisters husband was far from happy but is to reserved to do anything about it.

lisavegas420

OMG...I can tell you right now ..they WOULD be moving their silly little book study somewhere else..immediately.

How dare they tell her she can't feed her child in the most natural and beautiful way in her own home. jerks.

edited to say...further more. Shouldn't the PO have gone to the husband..since he IS the head of his home. stupid people

lisa

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Little People, Big World

by MsMcDucket in

new show tonight!

comes on 7 p cst.

i love amy!

lisavegas420

I love that family.

lisa