Posts by Cagefighter

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JW Mom killed in house

by Wordly Andre in

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http://www.pe.com/localnews/murrieta/stories/pe_news_local_s_sdead29.4016de2.html

murrieta - a 40-year-old mother of two was killed in her murrieta home monday morning, authorities said.

coroner's officials identified the woman as isabelle jarka.

Cagefighter

WHERE IS YOUR MOTHERLY INSTINCTS?

A well placed .38 special round will end any attempts on your daughters life!

I feel sorry for what you have been through but my heart broke when you mentioned your instructions to your daughter about running while you stalled. What a victim! I am sorry, but you have to be a mother first and a battered woman or confused JW second. You know this man is a threat to your safety and you want to play house, that's your biz. When your child is involved there should be no question.

I say this out of love and respect and hope you realize how serious this situation is. I am not trying to make you look dumb, just trying to shake you and wake you up sista!

I am glad you are away from him and now you must cut him out completely. Follow the legal system, arm and train yourself how to use a firearm properly and legally, but do not depend on other's to help or even understand. You need to use that bone God gave you that you head sits on, your spine!

P.S. Definately get some counseling too, it will help you heal.

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jehovahwitnessexam.com

by stepkimb in

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has anyone visited this site and answered some or all of those questions?.

if so, what to you think?.

Cagefighter

I thought the url was www.jehovahwitnessSEXCAM

Needless to say I was highly disappointed!

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Try living in America where the unemployment rate is 98%!

by moshe in

that's right- 98% of the people in this native american community are unemployed!

they have no job-- .

where is this reservation?

Cagefighter

I rather they get their checks from my failed attempts to make a living at playing poker, than to be scalped in a midnight raid on the next new moon.

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Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body as a Collective Body by what they cause to be written in literature and private letters:

by frankiespeakin in

now would any "psychologist" on the board and i use the term loosely as i am not one professionally , and have a very rudimentary hazy knowledge of analysis.. but one of the things jung had to do with the subject is the shadow to be properly analyzed one needs to recognize the shadow we all have we all have one.

and what happens when we repress a lot of things and stuff them into ones personal shadow, they get stronger and cause projection on the outside world that make one respond certain ways that might be termed as phobias or neurosis and even psychosis.. im sure we can spot a lot of denial and repression surfacing in what they cause to be published either publicly and in private correspondence.

perhaps even some phobias or out right neurosis.. i bett you a really skilled psychologist could have a fruit picking holiday with the stuff they find on the net already published far and wide for all to see.

Cagefighter

I see what you are saying frankie: The guy that preaches against lust all the time, is really repressing his own inability to control his sexual desires...etc, etc.

I agree on a personal level that holds true, but I don't know the GB as individuals enough to comment. Furthermore, the GB does not sign or take credit for any of their writing as individuals and I am pretty sure most of it is done by committee. Also it is not like the GB is coming up with anything new, these are moral codes and arguments that have been around for 50+ years now. They are just the enforcers.

Think about the dullard the GB would attract in the first place. Is their money in it? Fame? Sex? Freedom or even a grand sense of enlightment offered as reward? Nope... just the chance to be the puppet master for a few over-the-hill years. These are men who thrive in structure and take satisfaction in maintaing structure and being a part of it. That's all the GB has to offer a person. It's the Dwight Schrutes of the world now and will be forever.

I would guess that the individual GB members are quite boring and have little to repress if anything. They are simply trying to maintain the structure they psychologicaly rely on themselves to make sense of the world. This could honestly apply to a lot of people in the org.

But to get back to your point:

On Rusell, I would say he had a hard time comprehending a bigger God than what was taught to him or he found in the bible. I am rather certain that the reality that our lives are so greatly affected by the whims of other people's free will and natural events did not set well with him. The deist mindset while it is quite logical was upsetting to him. I think this is why Rusell became obsessed with shrinking God down to Jehovah a sentinent being on Alpha Centuari that had a set plan and time line. He needed God to be real in a tangible but very precise kind of way. All of his analysis and search for "truth" was because he simply could not live with the fact that it is impossible in this life (and maybe after) to have an objective answer to the eternal question. So he spent a like time synthesizing objective truth and hoping world events would prove him correct.

Rutherford, was an ego maniac and had trouble controlling his excesses for sure, women, drink, luxury cars and homes. So Rutherford's push to shun materialism, joy, and become an ultra-moral and pure organization was definitely more along the lines of the repression you speak of.

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new light on 1919?

by mksy in

wt study ed this sept (p.25) reads:.

"just think how discouraging it.

could have been to expect the end and.

Cagefighter

This is what makes the JW's a cult.

They obvious are having trouble getting this right, yet....

*Crowdsourcing is forbidden. You aren't allowed to research or run your own calculations at risk of disobeying the FDS (trust us they say)

*They refuse to admit they really can't possibly know and they are simply speculating.

*Jesus never said that he was going to come and inspect anyone or anything in the 20th century and certainly not about of magazine salesmen. It's all based on very loose interpretation and extrapolation.

*Make the calculations so mind boggling that it's easier to just nod your head and go along than critically think.

Changing the doctrine is actually an exercise in submission, keeps the sheep flexible and is necessary. Trademark of a cult.

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I'm going to see 2016 Tomorrow Morning!

by Farkel in

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friends

yep.

together with my liberal friend!

i couldn't believe that movie is playing in no less than ten theatres in cowtown where i live.. i just ordered my copy of "the amateur" and it was only $4.95.

Cagefighter

How about yall just visit my blog and read my reviews on fine foreign films.

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false prophets

by fakesmile in

im just thinking out loud here, which isnt exactly my strong suit.

but how can an organisation send half cocked "ministers" who are uneducated/ ill prepared and often have the most atrocious family arrangements, to tell complete strangers how they should live their lives?

is it an inside joke?

Cagefighter

The WTBS prepackes it all, not thought or intelligence required. Just ADD OBEDIANCE!

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GRRRRRRRR! update for ya'll on my daughter.

by Aussie Oz in

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friends

so much has happened the last few days in my world.

i am handling it all very well don't worry!.

my daughter left her mothers home, so very hard to do and she has been so very brave and strong.

Cagefighter

I don't know what the laws are where you are but in the U.S. clothes, make-up, jewerly would be considered personal effects. All she would have to do here is stand in front of the house and call the police saying her stepdad/mom won't let her get her things. The police would sort it out on the spot and make them let her enter and take all her personal effects for sure and any property that was not in dispute.

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Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body as a Collective Body by what they cause to be written in literature and private letters:

by frankiespeakin in

now would any "psychologist" on the board and i use the term loosely as i am not one professionally , and have a very rudimentary hazy knowledge of analysis.. but one of the things jung had to do with the subject is the shadow to be properly analyzed one needs to recognize the shadow we all have we all have one.

and what happens when we repress a lot of things and stuff them into ones personal shadow, they get stronger and cause projection on the outside world that make one respond certain ways that might be termed as phobias or neurosis and even psychosis.. im sure we can spot a lot of denial and repression surfacing in what they cause to be published either publicly and in private correspondence.

perhaps even some phobias or out right neurosis.. i bett you a really skilled psychologist could have a fruit picking holiday with the stuff they find on the net already published far and wide for all to see.

Cagefighter

Well Russell and just about anyone else with a 3rd grade education and good speaking voice were making all kinds of predictions from the civil war (which raged during Russell's youth) on up to WWI. Russell's dates (and their meaning) kept changing over and over. His original partner Barbour actually split with him after one failed prediction. It was the same thing as today, one date fails so we recalculate and find a new one.

It wasn't necessarily solid logic but Russell was "scholarly" enough that it caputred people's attention. By todays standards his scholary research is pretty shoddy, but I think deep down he always believed it or at least that he was on the right trail. Kind of like a treasure hunter that dies looking for that buried treasure that he just knows is out there. If only he can read the clues right or interpret the dusty old map.

In my most cyncial thoughts about Russell: I would say he wanted to be famous for accurately predicting the second coming. He also seemed to ignore anything that did not support his predicitions or that did not validate his opinions. He would also sue ya in a heart beat for libel or slander if you tried to disparage his character. I think he was obsessed with predicting the end and it was crucial that he was taken seriously.

Had there been Prozac or Xanex back then the JW's might not exist, LOL. He's actually the kind of guy that I would find interesting, full of ideas and passion. Rutherford would just be a boaring stiff suit. I'd probably end up kicking him in the nuts five minutes after meeting him.

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Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body as a Collective Body by what they cause to be written in literature and private letters:

by frankiespeakin in

now would any "psychologist" on the board and i use the term loosely as i am not one professionally , and have a very rudimentary hazy knowledge of analysis.. but one of the things jung had to do with the subject is the shadow to be properly analyzed one needs to recognize the shadow we all have we all have one.

and what happens when we repress a lot of things and stuff them into ones personal shadow, they get stronger and cause projection on the outside world that make one respond certain ways that might be termed as phobias or neurosis and even psychosis.. im sure we can spot a lot of denial and repression surfacing in what they cause to be published either publicly and in private correspondence.

perhaps even some phobias or out right neurosis.. i bett you a really skilled psychologist could have a fruit picking holiday with the stuff they find on the net already published far and wide for all to see.

Cagefighter

Zid,

The millenialist and restoration movements were really charged up by the civil war. People really had a smaller world view so Americans really thought it was the break down of civilzation and the beginning of the great tribulation leading up to some sort of rapture. The millerrites were a real popular group that sprung up and were typical but not the only ones.

WWI kicked off in 1914, which by Rusell's calculations was a significant date. Which came firstthe war or his assertation the 1914 was crucial, I am not sure. I would guess the war. He had two years to spread his ideas through the his publications, sermons, and columns. He did not die in a nursing home, he was actually on a train between sermons. He had an loyal audience that would have helped spread his claim of 1914 and with the unprecedented event of WWI the public would have listened. He was also quite well known like Rick Warren today. Imagine a promiment preacher saying the rapture was coming in 2002 the day after 9/11. People stopped and listened to the logic if you said it was in the bible.

That is what I meant by saying Russells theology and life was shapped by those two major wars.