honestly, how can you love anyone without seeing them?
"god" comes to mind..
The apostle John makes an interesting statement at 1 John 4:20.
20 If anyone makes the statement: “I love God,” and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen.
--Inkie
He may yet. But with your seeming attitude, Why would he? Why should he? Do you speak to your family and friends in the same manner that you speak of Jesus here? If so, would they continue and want to make an appointment to speak with you?
“I'm getting up there in years so if he is going to come and set me straight he needs to get on with it.”
52 is not that old. Please correct me if I err, but you write with seeming sarcasm. Is that your intent? With all due respect, perhaps you should change your moniker to Unhappy Guy or Angry Man.
Okay . . . okay . . . we know that both the OT and NT have been tampered with. We got that. We know that Jehovah is very poorly depicted in the OT. We got that. Now what?
--Inkie
Happy Guy: I did not mean to insult you. Having done so, I apologize. That certainly was not my intent. My intent was to show you that the words you speak regarding your description of the true God is false. That's all.
Concerning your statement as follows, I have only one question.
"If you want me to take what the NT says about Jesus as "fact", then I must also be able to take the OT as "fact", you cannot have it both ways. The only proof you have for Jesus words is the NT. So, if you are saying "oh don't believe the OT, it is lies". You cannot then say "but DO believe the NT because IT tells us that it is the word of God, er I mean Jesus who is God but isn't God."
Question: Ifone can trust the NT, which states that the OT is riddled with falsehoods, why would you "believe" the OT? Nevertheless, one cannot believe entirely the OT or the NT. Once can, however, believe the Christ when he speaks to you.
Again, I apologize for the mistaken insult. That is not something that I would intentionally do.
--Inkie
Happy Guy:
Obviously, you are not too happy with the God identified in the Bible. Truthfully, I can’t blame you on that score. But, if truth be told, the God of the Bible is not “the God.” The scribes have misrepresented who Jah was/is. The God you are describing is a misrepresented and maligned God. The scribes have attributed to him things that are not true about him. God’s reputation has been slandered and maligned. Do you not get that?
You write: If you listed out all fo the crimes that he boastfully took credit for in the OT you will have a list thousands and thousands of incidents long.” My point though is this: Jah has never taken credit, boastfully or otherwise, for any “crimes.” You, in fact, are like the scribes who wrote falsely concerning Jah. You too easily believe what you have been told by liars (religious leaders) and writers (scribes and writers of various publications). Do you not realize that was necessary for the Christ to come to tell the truth about his God and Father that was so misrepresented by the scribes?
Christ said (to paraphrase a biblical text): ‘If you have seen me, you have seen the Father.’ You answer me this HappyGuy: From what you know about Jesus Christ, would he have done any of the things you here have attributed to God? If you answer No, then know that because Jesus is the image of God, the exact representation of His being, neither did God do these “crimes” you speak of.
--Inkie
HappyGuy: You don't sound too happy. What a misnomer. --Inkie
4 Sing YOU to God, make melody to his name;
Raise up [a song] to the One riding through the desert plains
As Jah , which is his name; and jubilate before him.—Psalm 68:4
1 Praise Jah, YOU people!
Praise God in his holy place.
Praise him in the expanse of his strength. —Psalm 150:1
[And Jesus said:] have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living."—John 5:29-32.
--Inkie
first of all, thank you all for responding and, again, may you have peace!.
you've indicated that your words when you tell us what jesus told you are the infallible word of god.. .
you misquote me, dear six (peace to you!).
Walkin, you make many erroneous conclusions.
You write: "Jews and all the various faiths that don't accept this Jewish God and this Jewish Jesus who have made no contact with the rest of the world must now believe AGUEST!"
No, that is not what AGuest said. You don’t seem to be all that bright. AGuest has stated countless times that you must go to Christ, hear Christ, listen to Christ, believe Christ, trust Christ, go to . . . go to . . . go to . . . the Christ. Now, yes, AGuest has told everyone on this Board the things the Christ has told her; however, she has always said for you . . . for you . . . for you . . . to go to the Christ. Is that too hard to comprehend? I mean really?
You write: "Like Doubting Thomas, unless I, not you, put my hand in his side and in the holes in his feet and hands, I will not believe."
Okay. Like Thomas, that certainly is your prerogative.
You write: Remember Thomas was rewarded not punished for saying this. He received a special visit from Jesus. . . ."
Well then, Walkin, let us hope that you too receive a special visit from Jesus. That would be a very good thing, yes?
--Inkie
first of all, thank you all for responding and, again, may you have peace!.
you've indicated that your words when you tell us what jesus told you are the infallible word of god.. .
you misquote me, dear six (peace to you!).
Dear Walkin
You write and ask: "So, every religion, formed from culture, in every nation and handed down through the ages is wrong."
To answer simply: Yes. A religion (if you choose to use that particular word) is true if it comes from "the God"—Yes? Any other source would be false—Yes? So then, if, as you say: "[E]very religion, formed from a culture" contrary to coming from "the God", yes, it indeed would be false. Is that so hard for you to fathom?
You write:
"Only you have the truth, out of billions of good and honest persons around the world through all time, its [sic] you that this Holy One has spoken to."
AGuest did not state this. You are much mistaken. And as such, your conclusion that "[o]nly you have the truth" is in error. There are others who have the truth (Christ), as well. In addition, Christ said that ‘no one is good except the Father.’ Thus, no one on earth is good—so again your statement regarding "good" persons around the world ‘through all time’ is also in error. Not only that, but the Holy One of Israel—Jah or Armies—has spoken to many others "around the world through all time" and even to this very self-same day. Again, your conclusion that Jah speaks only to AGuest is in error.
You write: "I cannot wrap my mind around all that you say about your relationship with Jehovah, God, Jesus, etc."
That, unfortunately, is not AGuest’s problem—it’s yours.
You write: "All other faiths and religions wherein people have given their lives for, these people lived and died for nothing if what you say is true."
Yep! That’s true. Do you find this so hard to believe? The apostle John wrote that there are basically two kinds of people on earth—the Children of God and the Children of the Devil. We belong basically to one of those fathers. The majority of human inhabitants on earth are Children of the Devil. Few are Children of God. So, in harmony with what has been written concerning this subject, this conclusion of yours is correct—they "lived and died for nothing."
You write: "You get all this truth and knowledge about all the subjects you disclosed that God educated you on in His conversations with you only and science and all other teachings got it wrong."
Kind of looks that way, doesn’t it?
You write: "We must listen to AGUEST!"
No!!!
(What level is your reading comprehension?) AGuest has stated over and over and over again that the one YOU MUST LISTEN TO IS CHRIST! Where did you ever get that one "must listen to AGUEST
