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  LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

  by josephus in

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  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

  we see the same mistakes .

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  josephus

  whoa nelly!!!

  you said....

  ok first off the fact that you could even call child abuse a 'common mistake' unsettles
  me to no end!!!! Ya murder is a common mistake too should we not try and do anything
  about that either that's sick!!!

  by saying common i simply ment "occuring frequently"

  now i appreciate that this an emotive subject, but please remember i am not condoning this action.

  to get to you point if i may.

  you said....

  I think you need to stop rationalizing, and compartmentalizing the JW's and see them for what they really are:

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  The will be silenced and the silentlambs will be given voice!!![/b]

  ok if thats what you want, good luck.

  i get pissed off with lots of things, but what i see us doing is wasting our energies.
  if people are serious about this they should try and find out what the most productive
  way is available to realise thier unselfish aims.

  i wonder if its not just another knife to stick into a father we are all angry at.

  sincerly

  josephus
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  LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

  by josephus in

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  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

  we see the same mistakes .

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  josephus

  hi jeffrey

  i hate to miss any point so ill try again.

  you know jws are wrong.

  I know jws are wrong.

  As the pathetic door to door work shows NEARLY THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THEY ARE WRONG.

  at this moment however, children are being abused.

  now pleeeeease dont fall out with me here buuuut,

  who are you trying to help ?

  the kids being hurt, or yourself. (if you are a rep from silent lambs. forgive me if your not)

  your efforts are being used to malign an allready much disliked group, but are you efforts doing any good ?

  fight against child porn on the net if you want to help. but why waste time trying to damage an allready
  criticaly ill l religion.

  i guess to get to my much hidden point. ill say this.

  Jw abusers will be caught as well by current systems as they will by attacking the watchtower.

  regards

  josephus
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  LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

  by josephus in

  1. jw
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  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

  we see the same mistakes .

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  josephus

  hi

  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.

  now we hear about jw child abusers. this is sad.

  VERY SAD.

  however,

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye. we see the same mistakes
  being made by ALL KINDS OF GROUPS.

  but we tell eachother stories about jw children being abused and cry for them, them we shake
  our fists at the jws and call them awefull.

  this seems to me to be the exjw equivalent of porno. we get bored talking about mexico, and ray franz, etc, etc, etc
  so we latch on to a new cause. ta da !!!!!!! CHILD ABUSE.

  does anybody think active jws will appreciate getting hit with things like this?
  it will only convice them we are all apostates, and send them running home.

  jws have enough wrong about them without attacking them for something nearly everybody
  else has screwed up too.

  do you think the church down your street hasnt done the same thing as the jws ?

  i am angry at the witnesses, but i will not attack them for common mistakes.

  THEY SEEM TO BE TRYING.

  i hate to say it but,,,,,, fred hall was correct.

  he said if jws dffd all the child abusers we would all complain about that.

  i do not dought the sincerity of silentlambs, but i think thier efforts would be better placed fighting ALL kinds
  of child abuse.

  thoughtfully

  josephus
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  Todays my birthday!

  by Doc_jedd in

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  ....yep im still in the borg but im celebrating anyway!

  my family are just normal people(no dubs)they think its great.

  just want to thank you all on this board for opening my eyes to the real troof!

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  josephus

  warm heartiest cristian phillicitations.

  enjoy your day bud.

  regards

  josephus
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  THE BEST JW SITE EVER!!!

  by josephus in

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  pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.. its called disfellowshipped.com.. you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good).

  i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site.

  ive changed my mind.. please give it a look see.. regards.

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  josephus

  ill try

  http://www.disfellowshipped.com/Default.htm

  here goes

  jo
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  THE BEST JW SITE EVER!!!

  by josephus in

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  pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.. its called disfellowshipped.com.. you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good).

  i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site.

  ive changed my mind.. please give it a look see.. regards.

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  josephus

  pardon the big letters, but ive just found a great site.

  its called disfellowshipped.com.

  you can get the link over in kents site, (which is allso very good)

  i thought that a judicial commitee would give me closure, but now ive read the transcripts of one on that site
  ive changed my mind.

  please give it a look see.

  regards

  josephus
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  DA or not DA or continue slipping away ?

  by alliwannadoislive in

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  for weeks now, i've been trying to put together a disassociation letter - incidently, it's you lot that have put me up to this - and it's nearing completion but i'm feeling nervous about sending it.

  the fast approaching christmas celebration thingymajig is kinda egging me on as i want to blaze christmas lights everywhere and not feel nervous about the possibility of a visit from the po who drops the mags in to me fortnightly (i'm generally 'not in' ... ahem ...).

  i would appreciate your for's and against's - to either convince me to go ahead, or to think again and stay the execution ...

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  josephus

  hi please think carefully about this decision.

  if you leave quietly, life IS easier.

  if you write the letter, who are writing it for ?

  i want to get some closure, but that is simply selfish.

  by staying i have helped four others know the "truth about the truth".

  and of course there is NO SCRIPTURAL REASON TO DO IT !!!!!1

  by writing that letter you show them that you are still following thier rules.

  anyway thats my two cents.

  good luck , whatever you do.

  regards

  josephus
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  Sister orders me to cooperate with shunning

  by bluesapphire in

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  well, get ready to be shocked at the audacity!.

  we have family who came in from costa rica today.

  a cousin and his girlfriend.

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  josephus

  that is SOOOOOO SREWED UP

  if jesus was here today, hed talk to you, and if the society dare to call that religion i hope they get their reward.

  you are great, keep it up, maybe one day your sis will learn the "truth about the truth"

  regards

  josephus
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  ``The Truth,'' No; ``The Opinion," Maybe

  by Room 215 in

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  hi all,.

  i don't know about the rest of you, but there's something that grates on me like new chalk on a blackboard.. i refer to that expression jws use to describe that threadbare tapestry of conjecture, fill-in-the-blanks theological approach to doctrines the bible leaves hazy and judgmental moralism that comprises the wt belief system-- you know, ``the truth," as in ``he/she left the truth,'' or ``how long have you been in the truth?''.

  may i suggest that it be amended to ``the opinion?

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  josephus

  cripes

  ive been calling it the opinion now for years, even when i was "in"

  ask anybody, thats my copywritten phrase.

  regards

  josephus
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  Do You Still Believe a God Cares for You?

  by JosephAlward in

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  i've been a part of this forum for about one month, and during that time i've been struck by the willingness of many so former jehovah witnesses either to ridicule the bible, or to stand by while it's being ridiculed.

  so, i'm wondering how many of them while witnesses suffered through experiences so searing that they no longer believe in the god of the old testament.. who among you still believe that underneath the layers of contradictions, inconsistencies, and errors in the bible there may be found the words of a god who created the universe, and who also cares about you, personally?.

  joseph f. alward.

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  josephus

  hello

  i still beleive in god.

  what i beleive is a little more fluid nowadays, but i feel more open to other ideas too.

  the bible is full of helpfull info, and i think much of it is too good to be just mans words.

  despite what kent will say. the bible is not all bad.

  look at proverbs, now thats a good selfhelp book.

  regards

  josephus