Posts by Joyzabel

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to all parents..please please answer...

by gotcha in

hello it's been a long time since i was here just needed some input please from all loving parents...would you rather your daughter be:

1. married to a guy who's not really that great (history of having lotsa women, irresponsible) but seems to love/like your daughter.

2. be gay (with woman who is quite good, responsible and everything but - a woman...).

Joyzabel

only way to prove that my life is mine is i have the power to take it.

this really scares me. Gotcha, please come back and talk some more. It sounds like you are really hurting.

Instead of asking the parents how they feel about their kids, if they were gay, you need to ask those here who are gay how they handled coming to terms with their own life. How they learned to own their own life and not be suicidal. I'm sure these are feeling many have experienced when they realize they may hurt those whom have raised them. But you need to learn the difference between being loved and being under control.

You're parents have no right to control who you are. And unfortunately if they are making you feel bad about yourself, then distance yourself from them. Repsect that they are your parents but don't let them control you. Life is precious and worth living. Don't throw it away to show yourself or others what "power" you have.

Please let us hear from you.

Hugs,

Joy

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What would have to change for you to come back?

by _Atlas in

to those who have conscientiously walked away:.

what changes will at least make you consider coming back in?.

of course some will say nothing they do will lure them back?

Joyzabel

nice list rebel.

I would like to add:

bring back all who have died due to their silly "no blood" rule.

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What would have to change for you to come back?

by _Atlas in

to those who have conscientiously walked away:.

what changes will at least make you consider coming back in?.

of course some will say nothing they do will lure them back?

Joyzabel

welcome to the board, _atlas.

the only thing "in" the WTBTs is family and people. These individuals are under mind-control. So why would anyone want to lose their freedom to think?

The "hook" or dangling carrot of the WTBTs is the paradise. If you keep your eyes "on the prize" you don't really look at the teachings/doctrines/actions of the WTBTs. You try to make whatever it says fit into your reality of life so that you can attain that prize.

At least you are starting to think and question on your own. It is scary at first, but you'll eventually deprogram enough to see it is all a house of cards, filled with smoke and mirrors. Thus there really isn't anything to go back to. It is all lies.

Joy

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to all parents..please please answer...

by gotcha in

hello it's been a long time since i was here just needed some input please from all loving parents...would you rather your daughter be:

1. married to a guy who's not really that great (history of having lotsa women, irresponsible) but seems to love/like your daughter.

2. be gay (with woman who is quite good, responsible and everything but - a woman...).

Joyzabel

hey gotcha *waves*

"hello joyzabel (did you change your nick)..." yes, it's me, joy2bfree. I'm so free now that I want to have a joyzabel influence on everyone and that means you too, sweetie.

You are a bright gal, I remember , so please go get some counseling like I said. It must be hard to not be a "good jw gal" and now having feelings that you feel is against society. Well, those feelings are your feelings and you have every right to them. Please get help to see that you are a worthy person, NO MATTER WHAT. If something bothers someone else, that is their problem.

It takes people a long, long time to ever get to that point in their life. If helps to get help, to reach that point sooner. Please go get help.

Love ya,

Joy

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to all parents..please please answer...

by gotcha in

hello it's been a long time since i was here just needed some input please from all loving parents...would you rather your daughter be:

1. married to a guy who's not really that great (history of having lotsa women, irresponsible) but seems to love/like your daughter.

2. be gay (with woman who is quite good, responsible and everything but - a woman...).

Joyzabel

Gotcha,

good to see you posting after many years. How are you?

Please be true to yourself, whatever that maybe. Sometimes, its not what the parent thinks that guide our lives but what we ourselves think/condemn.

Now, about this "dead" thing. Please go see a counselor immediately.

This situation is not to be taken lightly. You need to discuss your feelings.

Hugs to you,

Joy

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The Bethelites Who Almost Went Out With Michael Jackson In Service

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

the bethelites who almost went out with michael jackson in service.

by barbara anderson.

from her new page (bookmark it!

Joyzabel

thanks Randy.

Intersting info

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My wife says I never listen to her...

by onacruse in

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...or something like that.. craigster (of the "i luv some of those bumper-stickers i see" class).

Joyzabel

Oh to be six again...
The husband asked his wife what she'd like for her birthday.
"I'd love to be six again," she replied.

On the morning of her birthday, he woke up early, got up, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms and then
took her off to Disneyland. What a day!
They went on every ride in the park. The Matterhorn, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Pirates of the Caribbean,
and the Haunted Mansion. Five hours later she staggered out of the theme park. Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down.

They drove to a McDonald's where her loving husband ordered her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a refreshing chocolate
shake. Then it was off to a movie to see the latest blockbuster, a hot-dog, popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&M's. What a fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed, exhausted. He leaned over ! his precious wife with a big smile and lovingly asked, "Well, dear, what was it like being six again?"

Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly changed.
"Is that what this crazy day was all about?
You idiot, I meant my dress size!"

The moral of the story: Even when a man is listening, he's still gonna get it wrong.

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My Son is Going Back to Iraq for his Second Tour

by Miata in

and i am so angry about it.

he leaves on the 29th of january and will be gone for 15 months.

i am so scared that if i think about it for too long, i have panic attacks that leave me breathless and immobilize me.

Joyzabel

To ensure all users feel safe and keen to participate,

do you think you contribute to the rules here?

expressing your feelings in an attacking way, obviously political feelings, is not kind, Little Witch.

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My Son is Going Back to Iraq for his Second Tour

by Miata in

and i am so angry about it.

he leaves on the 29th of january and will be gone for 15 months.

i am so scared that if i think about it for too long, i have panic attacks that leave me breathless and immobilize me.

Joyzabel

Little witch,

I don't think you are showing any empathy at this time.

Yes, your comment was shitty and very uncalled for. Please deleate your posting. It is mean and hurtful to a woman who is grieving over a situation that she or her son did not ask for. (being sent back to war and not having the option to not go)

Miata, my sympathy for what you are going through.

Joy

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Bicycles.....need advice.

by Lostreality in

okay, i got a bike a couple days ago to ride to work.

problem is, work is 6 miles away.

wouldnt be a problem normally..but im living in a very very windy city.

Joyzabel

lean way far forward over your handle bars. tuck your elbows in. Get a cool areodynamic helmet like Lance Armstrong in the time trials and see if that won't cut down on the wind resistent.

I'm assuming you have enough gears and can power through them

ps and cut out smoking. eventually it won't be so much of strugle.