Joyzabel

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  Those that would never miss a meeting or field service no matter what...

  by JH in

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  did you know a few in your congregation that would never miss a meeting, no matter what.

  even if it was 20 below zero or 100 f or if they were sick, they would be there anyways.. these people irritated me, because they wanted to show how good they were.. did you know any like that?

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  Joyzabel

  they wanted to show how good they were

  so........maybe they were just True Believers
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  Defending and Legally Establishing the Truth - Barb Anderson

  by Dogpatch in

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  from barbara anderson:.

  http://www.freeminds.org/women/defendingtruth.htm.

  it appeared in the december 8, 1991 awake!

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  Joyzabel

  yeah!!!

  Go Barbara & Joe
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  Parents

  by unique1 in

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  just got off the phone with my mom which was mostly a pleasant conversation.

  we were talking about moving around to different places and asked if we desire to see more of the us why don't we just pack up and go?

  i stated that we wanted to adopt or have a child in a few years.

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  some day, unquie1, you'll see how she is munipulating you. She is under mind-control (cult) and uses guilt to get you to hurt.

  You are in control of your feelings. So don't allow what silly words your mother says stir up feelings of guilt/hurt. Just picture her mouth moving and nothing coming out. Or if you would rather, put in words you want to hear. Make them positive and then you can see how she is guilting/hurting you, and that is not love.

  btw, why stir up the feelings of your hubby. Let love start with you.

  Joy
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  2005 Barbecue Is Definitely On!

  by Englishman in

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  saturday seems to be much preferred over sunday, so this years bbq will be held on saturday, july 9th, commencing around 2 pm.

  location is our home in weston super mare.

  as usual, the day will be very boozy and proceedings will conclude in the waverley pub.

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  Joyzabel

  And I'll be bringing my own pillow this year

  thank gawd. Salem was worried if she showed up again...........

  but she would like to see ya, FD.
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  to all parents..please please answer...

  by gotcha in

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  hello it's been a long time since i was here just needed some input please from all loving parents...would you rather your daughter be:

  1. married to a guy who's not really that great (history of having lotsa women, irresponsible) but seems to love/like your daughter.

  2. be gay (with woman who is quite good, responsible and everything but - a woman...).

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  only way to prove that my life is mine is i have the power to take it.

  this really scares me. Gotcha, please come back and talk some more. It sounds like you are really hurting.

  Instead of asking the parents how they feel about their kids, if they were gay, you need to ask those here who are gay how they handled coming to terms with their own life. How they learned to own their own life and not be suicidal. I'm sure these are feeling many have experienced when they realize they may hurt those whom have raised them. But you need to learn the difference between being loved and being under control.

  You're parents have no right to control who you are. And unfortunately if they are making you feel bad about yourself, then distance yourself from them. Repsect that they are your parents but don't let them control you. Life is precious and worth living. Don't throw it away to show yourself or others what "power" you have.

  Please let us hear from you.

  Hugs,

  Joy
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  What would have to change for you to come back?

  by _Atlas in

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  to those who have conscientiously walked away:.

  what changes will at least make you consider coming back in?.

  of course some will say nothing they do will lure them back?

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  nice list rebel.

  I would like to add:

  bring back all who have died due to their silly "no blood" rule.
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  What would have to change for you to come back?

  by _Atlas in

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  to those who have conscientiously walked away:.

  what changes will at least make you consider coming back in?.

  of course some will say nothing they do will lure them back?

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  welcome to the board, _atlas.

  the only thing "in" the WTBTs is family and people. These individuals are under mind-control. So why would anyone want to lose their freedom to think?

  The "hook" or dangling carrot of the WTBTs is the paradise. If you keep your eyes "on the prize" you don't really look at the teachings/doctrines/actions of the WTBTs. You try to make whatever it says fit into your reality of life so that you can attain that prize.

  At least you are starting to think and question on your own. It is scary at first, but you'll eventually deprogram enough to see it is all a house of cards, filled with smoke and mirrors. Thus there really isn't anything to go back to. It is all lies.

  Joy
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  to all parents..please please answer...

  by gotcha in

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  2. family

  hello it's been a long time since i was here just needed some input please from all loving parents...would you rather your daughter be:

  1. married to a guy who's not really that great (history of having lotsa women, irresponsible) but seems to love/like your daughter.

  2. be gay (with woman who is quite good, responsible and everything but - a woman...).

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  Joyzabel

  hey gotcha *waves*

  "hello joyzabel (did you change your nick)..." yes, it's me, joy2bfree. I'm so free now that I want to have a joyzabel influence on everyone and that means you too, sweetie.

  You are a bright gal, I remember , so please go get some counseling like I said. It must be hard to not be a "good jw gal" and now having feelings that you feel is against society. Well, those feelings are your feelings and you have every right to them. Please get help to see that you are a worthy person, NO MATTER WHAT. If something bothers someone else, that is their problem.

  It takes people a long, long time to ever get to that point in their life. If helps to get help, to reach that point sooner. Please go get help.

  Love ya,

  Joy
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  to all parents..please please answer...

  by gotcha in

  1. social
  2. family

  hello it's been a long time since i was here just needed some input please from all loving parents...would you rather your daughter be:

  1. married to a guy who's not really that great (history of having lotsa women, irresponsible) but seems to love/like your daughter.

  2. be gay (with woman who is quite good, responsible and everything but - a woman...).

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  Joyzabel

  Gotcha,

  good to see you posting after many years. How are you?

  Please be true to yourself, whatever that maybe. Sometimes, its not what the parent thinks that guide our lives but what we ourselves think/condemn.

  Now, about this "dead" thing. Please go see a counselor immediately.

  This situation is not to be taken lightly. You need to discuss your feelings.

  Hugs to you,

  Joy
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  The Bethelites Who Almost Went Out With Michael Jackson In Service

  by Dogpatch in

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  the bethelites who almost went out with michael jackson in service.

  by barbara anderson.

  from her new page (bookmark it!

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  Joyzabel

  thanks Randy.

  Intersting info