Where can I get my hands on this video? Could use a laugh
gutted
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worldly women don't all ask you to see her aquarium
by suavojr inlast night i was watching the secret elder's video about the jw who sleeps with a worldly women and i could not stop laughing.. when i was 17 i thought that all worldly women would sleep with anyone, i remember a beautiful neighbor who i tried to kiss and she just flat out said no.
i tried twice to make out with this girl and i just could not understand why she would not say yes .
she did not have an aquarium.... .
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Depression, Medication, and Other Grey Areas
by startingover13 inone thing that i have noticed in my dealings with a lot of women in the congregation are deep, intense feelings of insecurity and worthlessness.
i use the term "worthlessness" very loosely because it can apply to many different situations, in the congregation, in the home, personally, etc.
over the years, and especially over the past 6 years, i've met sisters from all walks of life.
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Everyone is going have their skewed viewpoint due to their personal story and experiences in the organization. There are many women with low-self esteem from all different walks of life, men too. It is a complicated issue with environment, genetics and upbringing all factoring into it. That being said I do think the JWs and religion in general makes people feel terrible. The message is clear, you are a sinner and you are never good enough. I suppose the added burdon of the do-more JW mentality doesn't make it easier. It's enough for someone who is on the more sensative side of life to really take these things personally and torture themselves over it. I'm not a woman but I sure did.
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Appointed by holy spirit
by Ben57 ini have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
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I've had this discussion with my family a few times, not just in regards to appointment of elders but holy spirit in general. No one has a clue how it works, when, how etc and as it should be, it is God's active force and you have to have faith to believe it. Trying to desifer exactly how it works and if it is just through the Bible or some mysterious way that influences people is foolish. It doesn't matter. OP will continue to listen to the elders regardless if he thinks they were guided by holy spirit or by meer outward appearance. The congitive dissonance between his logic and faith is very apparent but it seems he is a logical person trying to justify the whole idea. It is nothing beyond the usual keep calm and carry on.
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Has anyone else observed how the elderly JWs are neglected?
by Joepublisher1 ini know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.
) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?
(what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.
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That's more a societal and human nature thing than JW specific. I'd venture it's more congregation to congregation as the one I was in years ago everyone took care of the elderly very well. There were 3 elderly that lived with their parents, many drove the others to the meetings and I remember groups would visit the sick during service.
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Growing up as a JW was a form of mental abuse for me
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gutted
I can totally relate, I have a similar shy/timid disposition and growing up as a witness did not help one bit. I just didn't want to stand out and having to was painful. I was bullied and I've held that vicitim mentality for a long time until not too long ago.
I think being an outsider in pretty much everything in my life I have become a complete non-conformist. Sure I go along with some things like work and social pleasentries but I can't help but see through a lot of BS in pretty much everything. I think that alone alienates me as I already alienate myself from so many things seeing how trite and stupid they are. But sometimes it is nice just to go along with those things like bdays, holiday parties, letting loose... once you see both sides of the coin it can be hard to enjoy or appreciate being "normal".
I have to add though that yes I think the dubs were a major contributing factor but for a shy person or an introvert life can also be quite hellish in school growing up regardless of religion, it's just the added "seperateness of the world" that made it that much harder. I've read similar stories to mine and some of yours in regards to being shy and having low self-esteem growing up minus the dubs.
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3 years into my fade
by gutted inwow so here we are, april 25th.
3 years ago to this day something within me made me google my former religion.
it was all the the years of doubts concentrated into one all nighter to have the veil drop like a sack of shit.
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Wow so here we are, April 25th. 3 years ago to this day something within me made me google my former religion. It was all the the years of doubts concentrated into one all nighter to have the veil drop like a sack of shit. And boy did I feel like shit. Those first few days, weeks, months were tough. It was like I had unplugged from the matrix and, crap, what do I do now? How do I live my life, is there a point to living, oh god I have so many issues, I'm f*cked, please God help me, there is no god, maybe... etc etc etc. You get the idea, lots and lots of questioning. Even though I knew logically the witnesses were wrong it took (and is still an ongoing process) a long time to emotionally break free. I read all the great books which helped a lot (CoC, Combatting Cult Mind Control and tons of internet). I was on these forums religiously, ha, and they helped a lot. Slowly I stopped meetings, service, JW association altogether. It got easier and easier. Then I was confronted with my personal demons again and again and learning how to live life independently.
I will save you all the details on my personal journey (or hell) but currently I am in a good place. I live on my own and have learned to enjoy my own company. I realized you have to be a little selfish and invest in yourself and things that you value and enjoy which is hard as a witness due to all the guilt. I have good relationships with my family, even those that are witnesses and it took a while but now they see me as a good person who ideologically doesn't believe in what they do. I still struggle sometimes but with issues that I feel are now removed from when I was a JW, if not coloured by some of my history in the religion.
Wanted to write this to let people who might be in those first stages know there is a positive place they can reach. Through anxiety, depression, doubts, conflicts with other JWs we all have a different journey and I realize not all of us come out of it "fixed" but there really is no "fixed". We all have our path and I am just glad that I am not living a lie and thank you to those here that helped me and continue to support others through their fades and DF/DA.
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Do You Believe In ANYTHING That The Witnesses Taught At This Point In Your Life?
by minimus infor example, they pride themselves in what they don't believe such as immortal souls, the trinity, hellfire, etc.. some exjws still believe it is the "truth" and support the basics.. .
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Almost 3 years on since leaving mentally and I don't believe in anything from a doctrinal point of view. I respect the ideas of integrity, wholesomeness, being good to others that are taught in the Bible but not that it will lead me to some magical paradise.
Actually one important thing the witnesses taught me unintentionally was about human nature... people are people, even in some kind of sacred religion there were your pleasant people and your assholes. Taught me how to kiss *ss to rise in the ranks within a company and then by extension realize that I never want to do that so to be content with a certain position. There are a few more like that, thank you Watchtower Co.!
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Does The Governing Body Fear Worldwide Exposure Of Their Delusional Bible Interpetations?
by frankiespeakin ini think in the deeper recesses of their minds they know that soon they will be loosing this battle and that some video on youtube will go viral bringing them shame and exposure.. the way i see it, this battle is just starting and is going to get much worse in the future, they are multiplying the number of people willing to expose them by their cruel practice of disfellowshipping used as a form of information control.. people who are waking up to the governing body's deceptions are growing in numbers all the time, and what starts out as a trickle of people leaving can become a flood in time which seems very likely.
as the numbers become greater and greater the more worried they should be, and this is seen in their more merciless treatment of those who no longer beleive their crap, they are willing to do what ever it takes to keep the rank and file in darkness and under their control.
it all spells desparation to me.. .
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There is already worldwide exposure: the internet.
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How you can get into the Governing Body!
by gutted ini just had a realization looking at a website about the governing body.... in order to get there you no doubt have to have long service to the borg, but more importantly you have to be so deluded and out of touch that you think you're actually going to heaven!
these guys are so brain washed they believe everything so dearly that they actually think they are of the anointed.
no wonder they make such terrible decisions and policies, these guys are loons.. .
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I just had a realization looking at a website about the Governing Body...
In order to get there you no doubt have to have long service to the borg, but more importantly you have to be so deluded and out of touch that you think you're actually going to heaven! These guys are so brain washed they believe everything so dearly that they ACTUALLY think they are of the anointed. No wonder they make such terrible decisions and policies, these guys are loons.
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This was my 'Sign'
by MsGrowingGirl20 inin my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.
i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.
so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.
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I feel for you. My story is a bit different in that I am very logical and it took me a few hours of browsing on the internet to realize it wasn't the true religion. The thing is, yes that helped me realize it logically but not emotionally. That takes time, a great read in that regard was, as probably some stated, Combatting Cult Mind Control. That book helps one to seperate the beliefs from the emotional manipulation and control... those terrible terrible "pit in your stomach" feelings you must be feeling.
I did do a lot of reading and studying in regards to doctrine and beliefs to make sure I was 100% correct even after I "knew" it wasn't true, keep at it!