The society teaches that ONLY the 144,000 are anointed with Holy Spirit or indwelt in them. The other sheep are "led by Holy Spirit." There was a recent WT on the HS and it was very elitist when it came to HS and the 144,000. Problem is that most in the org don't really understand the difference and all believe they have HS.
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16Who does the H. Spirit indwell according to the Watchtower?
by james46888 ini've spoken with a number of jw's in the past who have told me that they believe the h. spirit only indwells the 144,000 (obviously contradicted by romans 8:8-9).
however, the jw i am presently trying to convert caught me a little off guard by telling me he was unaware of this doctrine (he's been a jw for 40-years) and that he understood it to be that all believers are indwelt by the h. spirit.
is he simply misinformed about his own organisations teachings here?
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Something that's been on my mind for a while and I finally put into words.
by WontLeave inshould i turn "apostate"?.
when anyone is replying to a matter before he hears [it], that is foolishness on his part and a humiliation.
prov 18:13. .
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Hadit
Welcome WontLeave! Keep questioning and looking. This oranization is hiding pedophiles, breaking up families and, as you noticed, twisting scriputures to fit their preconceived ideas. One of the main things that did it for me was the lack of love and Jesus said "they will know you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves." Doctrines aside - love was not there.
Wishing you all the best in your search.
Hadit
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Ya but then you could reel in that hottie with it!
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Hadit
YW!
BTW - fishing rod might work!
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Use the same contraption that you hand business cards to hot women at the red light with
For real - here's a link - sounds pretty good http://home.howstuffworks.com/garbage-disposal1.htm
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We are feeding the answers to the Bethel Lurkers!!
by clarity inare we providing the material for damage control?
are we making them look credible?
like giving them a "heads up" as to what is ssoooo wrong, and they're trying to fix the fallout!
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I have no doubt that they monitor the internet and try to do damage control. I'm sure they are told that they can count the hours and return visits from their cyber territories.
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Hello!
by factfinder ini'm new here, this is my first post.
have been reading so many comments from you guys over the past few months and now i can finally comment too!.
it is amazing how long it took me to see that jw's are not god's organization and that their teachings do not really find support in the bible.. now i'm not really sure what i believe.
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Hadit
Welcome to the forum factfinder! I can relate on not knowing what to believe and wanting to be free of religion. Enjoy your freedom to get to know yourself and what you want rather than a religion dictating it for you. I sincerely hope your relatives wake up.
I'm glad you joined us on this journey. I wish you all the best!
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Suggest a JW year text for 2011
by JimmyPage inhow about this one?
: "we are of all men most to be pitied.
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Oh right - here's my suggestion:
"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire."
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Suggest a JW year text for 2011
by JimmyPage inhow about this one?
: "we are of all men most to be pitied.
" -1 cor.
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Hadit
Good one! I needed a something to make me smile - thanks ! I'd love to see the look on their faces as they enter the KH and that is on the signage. Priceless.
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To new Christians on JWN
by brotherdan ini wanted to make a few comments to those of you that have recently begun to question or have already left the wt and made their way onto this site.
this site is a great resource to learn how others are coping with leaving the organization and moving on into a fulfilling life.. i wanted to write this post because i think reading something like this would've been helpful to me to understand where a lot of people that comment on this site are coming from.
you are going to hear from a wide range of people that have moved on to a diverse range of beliefs.
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Hadit
Brotherdan: I’m not sure you got the point of my post. People here are out or coming out of an abusive religion based on the bible. Judging them for being atheists or what have you by using the bible to back you up is like adding insult to injury. Some are still hurt. That’s all I’m trying to say. We’ve all been judged enough. Of course neither side has the right to judge! We are all in a constant learning process.