Wow - this really sounds like the book 1984! They want the books in memory holes - burn them and rewrite history. There would be no need to hand in anything unless there is something to hide.
Croatia and Czech Republic are beautiful!!!
Posts by Hadit
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27Is there anything wrong with "United in Worship" book?
by Albert Einstein infew months ago in my country (eastern europe) a letter was read in congregation, that the "united in worship of the only true god" (the blue book people studied as a second book after "you can live forever"...) is updated an replaced by another book and all publishers should bring their copies to elders.
the reason presented was that brothers (due to efficiency) want to recykle the books ecologicaly (iam not making this up).
it was literally said, that all books should be taken to the kh and not a single copy should be kept home.. when my mil told us that (we were not going to meetings at that time already with my wife) i told her, that as far as i know brothers do not have any recykling facility and if they do and want to be ecological, they should ask for all updatet publications, not just for this book.
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What amount of Borg demise would you consider victory?
by Mad Sweeney inthere's always a lot of discussion about "bringing down the wts" and how it will "never happen" because they'll just keep going and going.. so here's my question.
granted that barring some major international changes of a catastrophic scifi nature the wts is going to exist in some shape or form for the next hundred years and probably more, what progress on the "apostate" front would you personally consider a success?.
would you simply be happy to have all of your blood relatives out?.
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Hadit
One of the GB coming out and telling everyone the truth about the whole thing. Wake everybody up and a complete demise of the WTS. All the billions they accumulated be shared between people they destroyed either through their blood transfusion policy, pedophelia and/or sacrificing their whole life and having no retirement to live on and countless other damages they have incurred. People then start to learn what real love is. The WTS fades into the past as a vague nightmare.
If you're going to dream - dream BIG.
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What's Your Attitude Toward Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus indo you hate them?
do you feel bad for them?
do you not give a crap about them anymore??
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Hadit
With the R&F I feel frustrated and sad. Once I found out the truth about things I felt personally responsible to liberate all 7 million of them. I have since come to realize that I cannot and am now focused on my family, especially my son. If I get my son out I will have accomplished my goal. If the adults in my family/friends choose to disown me, while it sad, it will be their choice. It is my choice to stay away from that type of toxic poison. If there is one thing that should be able to get through the mind control it is unconditional love. If people experience this love and still choose to shun and hate their own family and friends then there is nothing I can do about it. Albeit this was a hard and painful realization.
With the WTS itself - I am disgusted at the outright deceit and hate that they perpetuate.
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Struggling
by EmptyInside init's just my personality to go the fade route, but i can't handle it anymore.
i lost respect for myself.
i won't write a da letter out of respect for family.
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Hadit
Hang in there! I completely relate to how you are feeling. It's one crazy mess of up and down. We are all so different psychologically and we all process things differently. Some can get up and get out while others need to digest everything and let it settle. Some are able to let go of family and move on while others have to do what they can to get them out. We are all different. I think what is needed is TIME. Living a double life is extremely hard on the body though. I'm sure we can all attest to that. Take good care of yourself! I think a vacation is a great idea. A good time to reflect and get stronger.
My thoughts are with you. Wishing you all the best!
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Highdose's pendulam problem...
by highdose inan update on me: i seem to be swinging from one state to another recently.
some days i will feel very peacefull within myself about the borg and my experiances in it.
i will feel like i'm almost able to forgive all those cult members who made my life hell.. ... and then the pendulam swings and i find myself remembering something about them that makes me just so furious!
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Hadit
Same problem here. I was actually on a downward spiral today and was going to post a similar question. I sometimes feel like I'm manic or bipolar. One minute I feel free and ready to tackle everything and everyone and the next . . . in the depths of despair and full of sheer RAGE. I have so much anger and it just comes up and it's so overwhelming. This is one rollercoaster ride I could really do without.
Thanks for sharing. I feel somewhat normal now . . . or maybe I feel better knowing I'm not the only one who's not!
I hope your pendulum swings calm down for you!
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Is the WTBTS mistaken or deceptive?
by exwhyzee inwhen i look back at history, i see the great lengths people have gone to, to prove their devotion to god and to carry out what they though to be his will.. do you think the watchtower organization is truly trying to deceive people and cover things up or do you think they are honestly misguided or mistaken in some of their beliefs and policies ?
if so, what purpose would they have for doing this?.
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Hadit
It is mistaken AND deceptive and very systematic in keeping both going. To do any less would mean loss of power and control.
They know exactly what they are doing.
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Interesting conversation with a pioneer today
by ldrnomo ini went into my favorite cafe this afternoon for lunch and saw a husband and wife that go to the congregation i used to go to.
the woman is a pioneer and has been for years and her husband is an elder who i've talked to a couple of times since i stopped going to meetings 3 years ago but i have not talked to her in 3 years.. when i got my lunch, i looked up and noticed them sitting by the window so i went over to them and said hello.
he said hi but when i said hello to the woman she just kinda looked at me.
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Hadit
Thanks for sharing your exerience. You handled yourself with kindness and finesse. I don't think that they know how to deal with us. Deep down under the mind control and fear they KNOW we are good people but they fear to go there and disobey their WTS programming. They take their fear and anger out on the people they have been taught are the enemy. Cognitive dissonance at work. This whole thing is just plain sad. The hate they instill and the lives they tear apart is awful.
All I can hope is that each and every one of us can be the better person and perhaps reach the hearts of those under the mind control.
I truly believe unconditional love is the key.
You may have planted a seed of awakening.
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I'm brand new and my mind is 'tight'...please come in 'with ease.'
by Joliette inhello....my name is 'joliette' ...i'm a 2nd generation african american jw's (well, actually 3rd generation) my great aunts are all jehovah's witnesses.
my late grandmother was not.
i'm from milwaukee, wi.
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Hadit
Welcome! So glad to see so many waking up.
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what was the worst advice given to you while you were a JW ?
by wasblind inmine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.
serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.
and he knew i needed my job to eat.
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Hadit
Don't go to college, don't invest in property, marry only in the lord - JW lord that is. UGH . . . I have days of intense bitterness!!!
robson: Welcome to JWN! Glad to see another person waking up .
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At the end of my rope :(
by tec inbut i guess this is my first big rant.. this last year has been the hardest year of my life.
my son tried to kill himself ( he did something pretty bad, got caught, and i guess that's the only way he thought to deal) i am also very close to actually hating my husband, and i do not hate people.
and every decision that i make lately seems to be the wrong one.
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Hadit
Tammy - I'm so sorry to hear of all your heartaches. My thoughts are with you. I've read many of your other posts and, as I mentioned before, you are such a loving and kind person. You deserve so much more. You deserved to be cherished and appreciated. I truly hope things work out for you. My heart goes out to your son as well.
Sending hugs.