i have just read in these following paragraphs something that would disturb my conscience, notice:.
12 they also saw that there are but two organizations in the universe and that everyone belongs either to god's organization or to satan's, the latter on earth being composed of big business, big politics and big religion.
34 the world's political wild beast rules supreme under the name-number 666, while big politics, big religion, and big business keep that wild beast functioning as an oppressor of mankind and a persecutor of god's people.
respond with "yes I've seen another JW minister has been convicted in sex abuse against children"
Sadly, most JWs are conditioned to shut their mind against any deffamitory information from worldlings or apostates so to hit them with something as strong as this on the doorstep will just be like a bullet missing its mark and ricocheting off a nearby wall to most of them, unfortunately. There again, I suppose if it makes even ONE dub sit up and take notice, it is worth a try.
yesterday, i started a thread about learning how to thinking critically.. so, imagine my surprise when last night my eldest son phoned to say that his son, my grandson, wanted to speak with my wife and i about a project he had to do at his school.
he has just turned 6 years old.
the project involved asking his parents and then grandparents questions about how things when they were a similar age.. i said that i'd be happy to speak with him, and answer his questions as best i could.
Sounds to me that his school are trying to get young minds thinking about more than just answers, but the reasons behind them - a bit more like discovering why we do what we do, and how it involves others...
That is brilliant!
Let's hope other schools are doing this too.
i know they love to crow about the dwindling christindom churches but hey what about the muslim or buddist religons?
now these are growing alot and far more than the jw's.... how does that fulfill their profecies hey?.
This is an interesting question.
they dont have answers for it
This is probably because the r&f are only able to provide answers that have been fed to them in the Watchtower. Obviously, there has not been a study article about it yet. I wonder if one is planned?
i searched for this here and didn't find any posts about it.
i just found this while searching for info as i was debating a jw on another site.
this is the most mind-blowing, spaced-out, insane bunch of mess i've ever heard.
Ciro Aulicino's words are identical to the people who made more of 1975 than was actually published.
Yes, I know. That talk gives me the creeps as it takes me back to the late 1960s/early 70s when some of the talks were equally as gruesome and designed to create panic among the r&f so we would all work harder at peddling the WT literature from door to door hoping this would save us from being horrifically killed by Jah in the VERY near future. I used to have nightmares, especially after conventions.
I get really angry when the WT deny some of the things that were said, trying to make out it was all in our imaginations or that we read more into it that was actually implied!
what's your passion?.
some people are very intense when it comes to politics, religion, jws, sex, love, the arts, music and almost anything that could get them revved up..
Art. I love to paint and I am totally unable to walk past an art gallery without going inside and looking at every painting which often drives my family mad.
I can't imagine a world without art, so I guess you could say I am passionate about it
obviously jah wouldn't allow for millions of pregnancies in the new system for fear of the same problem today of overpopulation.
so would he throw in sex but not allow for the women to become pregnant?
or would there be just no sex at all?
Members of both sexes will again become as Adam was before Eve was formed.
Forgive me for being thick but I just can't get my head round this. Does this mean that women are to be phased out and slowly turned into sexless men over a period of time?
Adam was created male, made in God's image and referred to as a 'he', and this was before Eve was created. How could he be male and sexless? What did he have instead of male genetalia before Eve was created?
Every mammal on earth, regardless of size shape or species have either male or female genetalia.
If all MANkind is eventually to become the same with no distinction between man and woman, are we to presume that it is actually the female of the species who will cease to exist?
obviously jah wouldn't allow for millions of pregnancies in the new system for fear of the same problem today of overpopulation.
so would he throw in sex but not allow for the women to become pregnant?
or would there be just no sex at all?
Apart from the sex issue, just imagine hundreds of your ancestors all alive at the same time and the same age as yourself
Going back to the sex issue, what would happen when Jehovah decides the earth is full and tells everyone, sorry no more sex - or maybe OK you can have sex but you will never see another baby, or hear the happy sound of children playing, which would make sex pointless anyway. Also if you have been having sex for hundreds of years with the same person it would probably get a bit monotonous.
Another thing, won't it be a bit boring spending eternity sitting in fields wearing 1950s clothes looking at baskets of fruit and having to comfort all the lonely lions and tigers who have no more little children to pet them all day long?
loading the language is a propogandist tactic to trigger a reaction in the mind.
a prime example is the word 'apostate'!.
i have been called 'spiritually weak' for quitting field service, meetings etc.. how would you respond (without swearing or giving a punch up the hooter), if you were called this?.
Caedes, I see where you are coming from but I think there is a big difference. Many thousands of JWs lives have been severely affected by spending their formative years being described as 'spiritually weak', 'easily lead', 'bad association', 'not humble', 'worldly' etc etc just for having the audacity to think for themselves and not be a robot like the rest of the JWs.
To call the Society 'WashTowl' or indeed far more derogatory terms, is not aimed at anyone personally, or used over and over again by members of their own congregation to mentally break them down in what can only be described as mental and emotional bullying.
You may feel it is hypocritical to use such insulting terms to describe the WTS but the difference is that it is not going to affect anyone as individuals or destroy their confidence, lead to depression and damage their ability to form relationships in their adult lives.
i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.
i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.
no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.
my baptism was just a swim with support
Love it, Nugget. Mine was hardly any better as I was a victim of the "give 'em a 6 month bible study then baptise 'em or forget 'em" regime of the 1960s.
(((((Amelia))))) bless you, and so glad you are finding comfort and support on this board. To think all us cold, wicked, stone hearted apostates are showing you the love you never got from 'God's chosen people'. Speaks volumes doesn't it!!!!
i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.
i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.
no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.
Faded as a family over 20 years ago. Moving to a new location and change of congregation helped to initiate the fade without attracting too much attention or any dreaded visits from elders to put us on the spot.
Would like to officially DA ourselves from the WTS and tell them what we think of them and their damaging teachings, but unable to as most of our extended families on both sides are active JWs yet they have all been wonderfully understanding towards us. We love them too much to risk losing contact with them if they are forced to shun us, which so far has not happened, thank goodness.
Also, by keeping the door open so to speak, we will be able to help any other family members who decide to fade and need support in the future.
