for all those here who who saw and may have met fred franz.what would he say about global warming, facebook twitter, the death of mitcahel jackson since mitchael was a witness.what would he say about lady gaga, justin biber, usher and emeniem.how do you think he would have reacted to the events of 9/11 and bible prophecy.would he see it as true signs of the end.. so the overall question how would fred franz respond to the 21 st century with it's advanved technolgy and war on terrorism and the economic crisis that this country (the u.s) is facing.please tell us your thoughts..
You'd honestly think the very last straw would be the false date of 6,000 years of "human existence" ending in 1975 would have ended Fred Franz's career and his reputation---but, it didn't!
No, it just ended any hopes of a career for thousands of JW children growing up in the 1960s/70s, who are now reaching retirement age without a pension. Myself included.
Thanks Fred !!!
spoiler alert: please do not watch this video if you've never seen the film, 'the sixth sense'.
the youtube is not about the film, but the film will be ruined for you, if you view this video prior to the film.
"i'm reasonably certain the sun will rise tomorrow.
That was brilliant!! Thanks for that.
I saw the film but I was one of the thick ones who didn't see the twist until it was revealed at the end
i don't really care to download it and review it and see how it's the same old same old - but i do like to read up on others doing it here.
:) i'm a lazy leach like that.. so - get to it guys.. www.jw.org.
edit: haha- i said 2001 in the title - meant 2011.
I want to let you all know that I represent Christ.
So you are all now required to follow my instructions. I just wanted to let you all know.
Yeah right, why not? Rutherford did OK out of it so why shouldn't you have a go brotherdan? Have you studied your mind control techniques thoroughly?
i don't really care to download it and review it and see how it's the same old same old - but i do like to read up on others doing it here.
:) i'm a lazy leach like that.. so - get to it guys.. www.jw.org.
edit: haha- i said 2001 in the title - meant 2011.
What I find really funny about that illustration is that the guy is offering a huge rock that must have cost the best part of a year's wages, but can't be bothered to buy a decent bunch of flowers! I mean, come on - they look like they were picked from someone's garden on his way to the office! Even a single red rose would have been better than that.
Another thing, isn't it a bit of a coincidence that the sister was studying about the dangers of becoming unevenly yolked one minute, then the next thing she knows she is being subjected to an impromptu proposal by a work colleague. Thank goodness she had studied her Watchtower earlier which had pre-warned her about the dangers of men jumping out in front of her with engagement rings so she could be ready with her hand raised in a stop sign!
tell me if i am crazy, but i think the human race is ignoring something extremly simple.
when we go outside on a cloudless day... we all seem to ignore the giant burning ball in the sky.. think about it.. the sun truly is the bringer of all earthen life; without it's effects we would all perish.
did you know we have never sent a probe to the sun?
Fascinating topic Sab. What you say makes perfect sense to me
in the fareham shopping centre.. a "sister" saw me.
pretended not to see me, dropped her her head and moved very quickly in the opposite direction.. i love being a dangerous apostate!!
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What Amelia said. Shunning is one of the most unpleasant, cruel and UNCHRISTIAN practices imaginable. I actually pity the 'sister' who probably was terrified that demons would come flying out at her if she as much as said 'hi' to you.
i have been talking to my jw mother.
about all of my angst.. it totally flies over her head.. the un is no big deal.
the generation is no big deal.
JRK I really do sympathise with you, I know how difficult it can be trying to do the right thing for your Mum. If she raised the subject herself that is a different matter to you raising it, and all I can say is, pick your words carefully and if she gets distressed or refuses to acknowledge what you are saying just let it be and go and pour yourself a stiff drink or something. Take care
i have been talking to my jw mother.
about all of my angst.. it totally flies over her head.. the un is no big deal.
the generation is no big deal.
I'm afraid I have to agree with lamallcool. My own mother is in her 80s and I am constantly biting my tongue to stop myself from saying something every time she states as fact that ALL the WT's Bible's predictions are coming true, and the end is very close now. She has waited patiently for so many years for armageddon and lives for the day she will be reunited with Dad in the resurrection. It would be extremely cruel to try to shatter her dreams at this stage of her life, it would break her heart and I could never live with myself.
this video traces our migration out of africa and explains, through dna evidence, how humans colonized the world.
it is part of the made easy series of videos that show the evidence of our origins, from the big bang onwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdknzz9b6rg .
Thank you that was most informative and easy to understand.
i know there have already been a couple of threads posted about this, but i thought it made since to bring it up again.
i hadn't really heard any "oh my what a blessing, are you pioneering in april?
" talk right after the big announcement last month.
He ACTUALLY SAID that "Armageddon is coming and if that's not incentive to do more in the service of Jehovah, I don't know what is."
He went on to point out that we should never be satisfied with what we are doing now, and should always be striving for more. He mentioned a talk on a District Convention from 1981 where these questions were asked:
"If you are a single person without Scriptural obligations, can you justify before Jehovah why you are not in the full-time service?"
"If you are a married couple without Scriptural obligations, can you justify why one or both of you are not in the full-time service?"
"If you are a retired person without Scriptural obligations, can you justify before Jehovah why you are not in the full-time service?"
Towards the end of the talk, he made a statement that really got my blood boiling. He said: "Would you expect The End to come when Jehovah has got more people than ever involved in the Pioneer work? Could it happen in April?"
As far back as the 1960s we were put under so much pressure from our parents and congregations to follow this directive. We were expected to give up any further education, careers or fulfilling jobs to devote all our time knocking doors as our lives were in danger if we did not do as we were told. Yet where does it actually say in the bible that Jehovah expects people to do this?
If any young JWs are reading this thread who are currently being pressurised against their better judgement to devote their lives to pioneering, please be assured this is nothing new. It is the same pressure they have used for over a century in fact. Back in the 60s we were told there would be plenty of time to do all the fun things in life 'in the New System' which was almost upon us and we were to devote every moment we could to the preaching work in case Armageddon came and caught us unawares.
Believe me, they will steal your youth off you, ruin your chances of getting a fulfilling job then you will reach 60 without a pension and realise you were conned. Don't let it happen!!!! Put your foot down and say NO while you have the chance.
