i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.
i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.
no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.
my baptism was just a swim with support
Love it, Nugget. Mine was hardly any better as I was a victim of the "give 'em a 6 month bible study then baptise 'em or forget 'em" regime of the 1960s.
(((((Amelia))))) bless you, and so glad you are finding comfort and support on this board. To think all us cold, wicked, stone hearted apostates are showing you the love you never got from 'God's chosen people'. Speaks volumes doesn't it!!!!
i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.
i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.
no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.
Faded as a family over 20 years ago. Moving to a new location and change of congregation helped to initiate the fade without attracting too much attention or any dreaded visits from elders to put us on the spot.
Would like to officially DA ourselves from the WTS and tell them what we think of them and their damaging teachings, but unable to as most of our extended families on both sides are active JWs yet they have all been wonderfully understanding towards us. We love them too much to risk losing contact with them if they are forced to shun us, which so far has not happened, thank goodness.
Also, by keeping the door open so to speak, we will be able to help any other family members who decide to fade and need support in the future.
just wondering!.
i know many would say ''why the hell would you do that?".
just wondering if i could actually get hard copies of some stuff for a 'donation' and not have to hunt it down.... mind you, i'd have a hard time making myself look conservative!.
Hmmmm, the problem is if you want loads of literature you would have to appear genuinely interested to avoid suspicion, in which case you will find yourself being roped in for bible studies, meetings and all the caboodle.
Your 'donation' might prove to be too costly, methinks
hey guys!
i've been here a while, posted a few topics about me and my witness hubs.
well i finally through in the towel and filed for a divorce.
I have seen so many cringeworthy occasions over the years where JWs have had to go begging to their ex spouses to provide them with written admissions of fornication so they can remarry. Why does the Society allow non JWs to hold such power over their own people. It is just wrong!
One of my close JW relatives was forced to live the life of a nun for the best years of her life because, despite constant grovelling, her ex hubby would not give her a confession. The reason? He did not want his daughter calling another man 'daddy', even though he was assured that would never happen. Eventually his concience got the better of him (when his daughter was a teenager and too old to call another man 'daddy') and he gave her the letter she needed.
This stupid rule makes me
mine will surely give me away, but i don't care.
when i was preggers, i was supposed to have a c-section the first week of the new month.
so i knew i needed to go out in service so i would not be irregular that month.
Oh (((((((foundsheep)))))) that makes me so angry. Any woman dreads being in that situation yet there you were, only 15 years old in a strange congregation needing help and all those so called 'sisters' just walked out of the toilets without bothering to discreetly ask the other sisters in the KH for a pad for you????!!!!! It beggers belief. Thank goodness at least one woman eventually came to your aid.
In my opinion it is all those 'loving sisters' who should be the ones to be embarrassed, not you
Sorry, rant over
on an e-mail group (yahoo group) that i follow for fun it was noted from the wt study the following "in the tower today par 13 speaking about job refusing to throw a kiss for fear if might be an idolatrous act.
the question was ask "what would be consider a modern day parallel, to the throwing of kisses, that the par was speaking off" there were a number of comets but one being, the tipping your hat to a lady and also at a funeral procession.
if any can recall of commert made at there hall i would be interested in hearing of them !!".
In this particular matter of hat-tipping he appeals to the vanity of women and the so-called gentlemanly qualities of men, and any man who does not comply with the subtle custom is considered crude and discourteous, disrespectful of womanhood. So out of a fear of what others may think the majority fall into conformity.-Prov. 29:25.
What a load of rubbish
Yes Amelia, I know exactly how you felt. At the very first meeting I ever attended I was stopped quite rudely by a large middle aged brother who literally jumped out into the aisle with his hand stretched out to stop me talking to a girl who was near my own age in her mid teens with a little baby. The man was the girl's own father! She had been disfellowshipped for fornication, and I had to watch her throughout the whole meeting and afterwards, trying to cope single handedly with her new baby while she was totally IGNORED by all the sisters who should have been helping her.
I couldn't concentrate on the meeting because all I wanted to do was reach over and help the girl as she struggled with her baby. I was upset and appalled, and although many JWs tried to convince me that it was a 'loving arrangement' to ostracise the poor girl while she learned her lesson, I could not understand how seemingly nice, friendly people could behave so cruelly towards a young vulnerable girl.
The thing is that many of those sisters had children themselves and would know how scary it is to be a new mother, possibly having post natal depression on top of all the normal concerns and worries. Most importantly of all, she was a very young, vulnerable, unmarried mother. I couldn't understand it at the time, but now I realise their total disregard for the girl and her baby must have been the result of very clever mind control by the WTS.
I never did get a chance to talk to the poor girl as we started regularly attending a different congregation, but I have never forgotten that awful experience, and as you say Amelia, I always tried to find ways to acknowledge disfellowshipped people even if it was just to bump into them and say sorry. I wonder how many bruised arms we caused between us
Thanks for that nugget, that is excellently put and explains why JWs who are otherwise kind, compassionate individuals can behave in such a cold and heartless way towards former friends or even family members, with no apparent concern for the effects all this is having on the poor unfortunate soul who is being ostracised.
To me, this is evidence in itself of the clever mind control techniques used by the organisation to keep its members in line, even succeeding in persuading members to willingly act against their natural instincts of love and protection towards family members in order to obey the leaders, which in their eyes is more important.
The very thought of upsetting the WTS by failing to obey its commands causes more distress to many JWs than losing a close friend or family member. Quite frightening really! Fortunately, it appears that since the introduction of online sites like this there are increasingly more JWs who are starting to think for themselves and refusing to go along with all this shunning nonesense, thank goodness!!
what do you have on the info page for religion?.
Mine's blank too. I was going to put a flippant comment but didn't want to risk upsetting my JW relatives who are fb friends.
back years ago when we were getting ready to split, i suggested that two or three bros and their families went to the other hall, otherwise 75% of our new body would be belong to the same family.
my idea was shot down.
so, any time we needed a show of hands, all six of those men (father, two sons, two son in laws, a brother to one son in law) always voted the same way.
Yes, I think it is quite common for the offspring of several families within the same congregation to grow up and marry each other, making one huge family. It is inevitable really as they are not allowed to mix with people who are not JWs, so unless they meet someone at an assembly what else can they do? I know of one congregation where intermarrying was practically encouraged, and the relationships became really complicated, like having an aunt who was also your sister in law just as an example.
