When you have children, you’re very sensible to the theme of child abuse. That was the first point ... Then it was the domino effect (UN scandal, OSCE….)
Desi
reading the post "how long did it take you to leave", i can't help but be envious of those of you who refer to leaving as a "we" event.. i know it has been said that women tend to react to feelings/emotions along with logic, can you help me with ideas that got you to feel something was wrong?
what should i work on planting with my wife?.
thanks..
When you have children, you’re very sensible to the theme of child abuse. That was the first point ... Then it was the domino effect (UN scandal, OSCE….)
Desi
i don't understand... with all the people who are contra-watchtower - i mean all the books, all the websites, all the forums dedicated to "exposing" the watchtower "truth" - why has no one group actually just gone ahead and really exposed it?.
all the proceeds from crisis of conscience or whatever other books (many on amazon.com) or whatever spare money and time people have to create these forums for people of varying degrees of craziness and experience could all go towards one simple solution: infiltrate the governing body "enclave" meeting room with bugged mics and a hidden camera.
really, why hasn't anyone thought of that?
Welcome!!!
Desi
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
Read it and In Search of Christian Freedom. Liberating!! Had to read them in secret though. Shhhhhhh....
Backspacer: Iv'e just begun...fascinating
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
Welcome aboard! I received Crisis of Conscience today, don't forget to order it if you hadn't already.
Desi
when you were a jw, did you pray regularly with your spouse?
what about a "family study"?.
i was a pioneer and ministerial servant, but praying with somebody was always the most awkward, uncomfortable thing ever.
Up until 4 weeks ago, we still did read the daily scriptures brochure, prepare book bible study and watch tower as well as reserve one evening for family study (insofar as one can study with 2 and 5 year old children) and my hubby was always praying with us on those occasions as well as before meal. That was it.
Desi
just thought i would let you all know, that as part of my ongoing theocratic warfare strategy i placed 6 magazines this morning.
i will be recording about 20 on my time slip though
I couldn't attend the P-School because it was impossible for me to make the 1000 hours/year....when I think about it...the possibility of faking never came into my mind...
i've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".
the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .
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As a teen for the narrowness of my skirts/dress
As a young adult for the length of my skirts (knee lentgh)
a quote from "crisis of conscience".
don't be afraid to read it.. .
whatever the initial distress - a distress that sometimes follows the demenaing experience of being interogated by men who, in effect strip one of dignity, make the weight of their authority felt, and presume to judge adversely one's standing with god - however torn one may feel inside, afterward there is a distinct feeling of relief, of peace.
Thanks for this tread Palmtree and for your list Mentallyfree (I will print it). I also want to thank you for your private support. Nice to know you're not the only member of your family out. Hope I will get all I love out of this cult although I know I will need time...
Desi
since i have been a lurker off and on for years, i thought it was high time i got off my duff and joined.
i didn't look at member names when i sat up my account, so i didn't realize there was a desertrat already, i am just a slight difference with a space in there.
thought i would point that out right away so there would hopefully be no confusion.. my name is sue and i live in nevada.
Welcome Sue !
Desi
i am a third generation of jehovah witnesses, even if i never got baptized.
however, they disfellowship me when i was around 15. this was around 1987. even if i have not been in the "truth" for so many years it has affected all my life in many ways not only negative.
a couple of years ago i thought the events in the world maybe proved to me that they were right after all.
Welcome aboard Nice to have you here!
Take care Desi