Posts by Soldier77

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DEMONS

by Band on the Run in

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growing up in the fifties and sixties, stories of demonic possession were prevalant in the watchtower and awake.

i was terrified.

we were told they would bother you if you were faithful, but also if you fell away.

I don't fear demons. If they are around, which I'm sure they are, they have bigger fish to fry than me. I mean, seriously, they were once angels or something to that effect right? I'm interested in asking them the truth about the whole 'challenge' that Satan made against Jehovah. What really happened etc. I mean the truth from a demon is the same as truth from an angel. Truth is truth!

But yeah, heard a lot of 'demunz' stories growing up, to me it was all superstition. Maybe they don't mess with me because they don't see me needing to be converted to seeing the truth about this world.

Who knows, I don't care, I'm not afraid of Jehovah, Satan, his cohorts or anything mystical. If they want to tell me something, they should just come out and say it.

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The Emerging Internet God

by metatron in

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let me explain................. there is an old joke that directs us to consider what the future will be .

a bunch of scientists create the greatest computer of all time, containing all human knowledge.

they ponder what to do with it.

Soldier77

I too believe in the Google God. I've found answers to practically everything I've typed into its search engine. Need a manual for a certain product, type in product name + manual = BAM! Downloaded. Want to know what the Gnostic Bible is? Type it in, BAM! There you go Google Docs has it online. Need a currency converter? Translator? Need medical advice or questions to ask? WebMD to the rescue...

Yes, the internet "God" is almost here...

lol

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No Need For EdenTree Unless God Knew An Angle was...

by Sayswho in

no need for eden tree unless god knew an angle was...going to try and foil his purpose for other life forms.this has always not added up for me.

there is really no reason for the tree (s) unless god knew that he had angles that were already bad in their 'hearts'.

so the questions i have on this are.... were the angles tested to see if they would remain faithful?were humans created to be the test for the angles?was it was 'fair' to have spirit creatures (millions of years old?

Soldier77

Oh okay, thanks PSac. I think I'm reading way too much and my brain needs to absorb this more.

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No Need For EdenTree Unless God Knew An Angle was...

by Sayswho in

no need for eden tree unless god knew an angle was...going to try and foil his purpose for other life forms.this has always not added up for me.

there is really no reason for the tree (s) unless god knew that he had angles that were already bad in their 'hearts'.

so the questions i have on this are.... were the angles tested to see if they would remain faithful?were humans created to be the test for the angles?was it was 'fair' to have spirit creatures (millions of years old?

Soldier77

But the Snake aka Satan didn't lie did he? Adam and Eve did NOT die that day that they ate from the tree of knowledge and the God of the NT expells them from the Garden why? Because he was afraid that Adam and Eve would become like him! (I wish I had the scriptural quotes to add, sorry at work).

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No Need For EdenTree Unless God Knew An Angle was...

by Sayswho in

no need for eden tree unless god knew an angle was...going to try and foil his purpose for other life forms.this has always not added up for me.

there is really no reason for the tree (s) unless god knew that he had angles that were already bad in their 'hearts'.

so the questions i have on this are.... were the angles tested to see if they would remain faithful?were humans created to be the test for the angles?was it was 'fair' to have spirit creatures (millions of years old?

Soldier77

The two trees in the garden of Eden:

1) The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad

2) The Tree of Life

Can someone tell me why there was a tree of life if "God" created man to live forever? What is the purpose of planting a tree of life if you're already created to live forever? Sounds like we weren't created to live forever from the start and if Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Life then they would receive life eternal.

Sounds like the demiurge that created this world was fallible and not God Almighty. He didn't create perfect beings. Everything in this world consumes and destroys.

Sorry, I've been reading a lot about Gnosticism and the gnostic bible again....

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Got "THE letter" ....how to proceed?

by 2pink in

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my husband and i faded/mysteriously disappeared from meetings over a year ago.

we've had a few visits from elders (where we said very little but thanked them for their time), the last one being when we had some nice jack o lanterns sitting on our porch.

on saturday, we got letters cordially inviting us to our beheading, i mean, our judicial committee meeting.

Soldier77

I don't understand people that blatantly put up holiday decorations for all to see and then come screaming here on advice as to what they should do when the elders ask them to attend a JC about the offense.

I get you no longer want to be a part of the JW cult, good, but you say that you don't want to be DF'd to associate with the family and friends that you're still close to. If you want to play by their rules, i.e. stay away from being DF'd then you need to play by ALL of their rules or at least don't be so public with your displays of rebellion.

Plain and simple.

IMO, just leave, sounds like you aren't hanging out a lot with those still in, so what's it matter anyway?

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An email I just recieved: Jehovah's Loving Kindness

by Soldier77 in

but it's a new king in israel .

the only one who's left of the house of jonathan is his son.

mephibosheth said 'sure: i have had hard times and i am a cripple and i don't even understand this loving kindness, but he said i'll never leave this table.'.

Soldier77

Ziddina, thanks for the links. I'll look those up.

Perry, yup, absolutely, sounds so cultish. It blows me away how it came across. I want to jump up and down at the next assembly of any kiknd and just shout ARE YOU SERIOUS?! WHAT A CULT!

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Elder knocks on my door... couldn't see who it was and I opened it...

by Soldier77 in

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so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.

i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.

not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.

Soldier77

steve2, couldn't agree with you more. I've seen that so many times over, one on one an elder seems like your best friend, then get him with another one and more, all bets are off, you're in deep shyte.

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Elder knocks on my door... couldn't see who it was and I opened it...

by Soldier77 in

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friends

so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.

i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.

not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.

Soldier77

Thanks truthseekerIam. It's like a dark cloud that continues to hover over my head, just when I think it's over and done with, ops, here it comes again! The sad thing is that my mother knows all of this and has been through worse and yet still squaks the company line of 'trust in Jehovah', 'Jehovah will set matters straight in his due time' or 'Jehovah is using you to clean up his congregation through unusual means.' I shit you not. Quite sad how far in she's being controlled.

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Elder knocks on my door... couldn't see who it was and I opened it...

by Soldier77 in

jw
friends

so an elder came to my door the other day in field circus.

i looked through the peephole to see who it was, but the way the door is situated against the sky in the background i couldn't see anything but a silhouette.

not to mention he was standing off to the side so to make it hard for anyone to see who was knocking.. so i open the door thinking it was my friend since he is the only jw that knows where i live.

Soldier77

Thanks Mr. Flipper. I hope so too. When I was active and hung out with the other actives, he was always the cool guy with all the cool stories and some stuff that made you go, wait a minute, he didn't just say that did he?

I wonder how long it will take him to crack the facade off and see it for what it truly is.