Posts by alice.in.wonderland

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Okay, Someone "Enlighten" Me, Please...

by AGuest in

jw
friends

and may you all have peace!.

i would like to understand, please, if someone cal help me:.

if, when you come out of "her," the most glaring and obvious of things that with you is anger, hatred, intolerance, irritability, deceit, loose conduct (and i mean the really loose, not just the typical) and things like these... such that when you communicate with others, including but not necessarily those still in "her"... these things a manifest... are you proving "her" right... that life is "better" on the inside, at least as far as "they" can "see" it?.

alice.in.wonderland

Well, as I read this, what am I supposed to think? "I pride myself for not being a sick person?"

With sympathy: Schizophrenia..................

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Popular Music

by alice.in.wonderland in

the thread about my avatar disappeared.

i think my avatar picture is harmless, but i did say earlier the gothic witch possibly gets back to music i listened to as a teenager.

associated imagery is as follows:.

alice.in.wonderland

"Wow. I saw that the title of the Slayer song was 'Consfearacy', but I just now realized that it says "Christ Illusion" on the top right on the video graphic too! So both Alice's alternate Usernames are from Slayer songs? Maybe one is the album name and the other a track name."

That's psychological exposure. Is it the music's fault or mine since you're making this an item worthy of attention? It's not.

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

"Wow, Mythbuster, well spotted.

"Alice"/"Consfearacy"/"Christ Illusion", the occult, witch, smoking and crucifix avatared, Theosophy defending, Slayer promoting, multiple personality is certainly the weirdest JW 'loyalist' and Society defender I have ever come across.

She's so deeply weird and contradictory, I think I may actually be starting to like her. LOL

But it will have to be a love / hate thing, and I'll have to work the ratio out later"

Jehovah's Witnesses don't live in a vacuum. They've been exposed to all the same things that make an impression on a person's consciousness as everyone else as I pointed out on that thread. It was mythbuster's choice to search in a database and find the source of a screen-name and post a song; that is what's weird. If you meet a stranger and start psychoanalyzing them, they will think you're a freak. For whatever reason, people here have a problem with this anti-social behavior.

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

"LOL. I really did. You don't like to admit losing a debate do you? But to be fair I certainly wasn't the only one. You're arguments were thoroughly debunked by at least half a dozen posters over two threads. It was an absolute rout and was amazed to hear you spin your defeat here over at Topix as you supposedly "destroying" our counter-arguments. They didn't believe you there either though, "Christ Illusion". You also claimed there that Simon banned you because he "couldn't handle the truth" rather than because you were caught lying to people who know the workings and practices of the Society much better than yourself and for much longer.
And it's hilarious that you attempt to deflect from the "smack down" comment Palm made - which evidently really got to you - by immediately referring to something TOTALLY off topic but which you hope will sow dissent and somehow get people to turn on me. "He believes..." you say, as if it's somehow relevant and then you misrepresent my beliefs in hope of making them seem controversial. Truly pathetic.
I'm quite happy to explain what I believe the Scriptures say, in a thread where it's even vaguely on topic. I don't need you to misrepresent for me, thanks."

This thread has been ruined and not by me.

You lie...

In my letter I wrote you to quit mixing in company with fornicators, not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, you would actually have to get out of the world. But now I am writing you to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.” 1 Corinthians 5:9-13

I haven't claimed to be a "true" Christian, I've just logically engaged different ones here and indicated you can find true Christians in any given Kingdom Hall. You claim to be a "true" Bible based Christian and at the same time you condemn the disfellowshipping arrangement. This is God's arrangement, not mans. If it wasn't for this arrangement you wouldn't likely find those that are trying to live up to their name. Those that have rejected God and have miserably failed manipulate this arrangement into a made man “sanction” as you say for self-serving purposes. This is the most difficult principle Jehovah's Witnesses have to confront especially when it comes to family. Case in point, I'm not shunning people here. You need to take this arrangement up with Jehovah and quit blaming others.

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

"Actually, acccording to topix and your record on this site, it looks like you are the fraud."

I don't really care what people who lie about Jehovah's Witnesses say. Especially when they hang their rotten underwear all over the place. It's repugnant. You initiated the insults so you should stop it.

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

"Again, why are you here? You have lamented how few of us are intelligent enough for you to debate with, yet when Essan gives you a smack-down, you run off like a scared rabbit and pop up somewhere else with the exact same drivel that was just refuted for you."

Essan didn't give me a smack down. He believes all of Christendom's churches are apostate, the great harlot in Revelation and true Christians are hidden and scattered abroad. Ask the St Anne if she agrees. No-one else believes that as all Christians here respect their church as gospel truth. Essan is a fraud.

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

"I knew Alice would be back. Hahaha!

I guess YKnot is right, it craves the high of the persecution complex, proven by the whole "I'm a victim and have been treated sooooo badly by you all that my imaginary husband now has to come and stick up for me......My hero!!"

Hilarious."

That's why I took the conversation here because people use this forum as a toxic waste dump to unload contaminated portions of their psych. The record speaks for itself:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TA7ER317CCO79K6RH

The moderator (Simon) at http://www.jehovahs-witness.net just kicked me off the forum. I've created two threads there. Everything I said was logical and and in good taste. Here was my first thread:

"High-Control Groups"

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bi...

He quoted what I said here:

"If you do not believe the Watchtower (the faithful and discreet slave's principle means of teaching) has backing from God, you don't have to agree with anything it says. This is not enforced with sanctions and there is no one that can or does force anyone to stay in the organization."

This was his reply and then my account was closed:

"That is complete bullshit. You know it, we all know it. Most people who search for "Jehovahs Witnesses" on the internet after you pushed your crappy magazines and leaflets through the door know it.

You don't fool anyone anymore with your WTS double-speak and you are not welcome coming here to post blatant lies and propaganda of a mind-control C-U-L-T."

No profanity filter however.

All the post are still there. Interestingly enough, these are the forum guidelines:

1. Insulting, threatening or provoking language
2. Inciting hatred on the basis of race, religion, gender, nationality or sexuality or other personal characteristic.
3. Swearing, using hate-speech or making obscene or vulgar comments.

Double-speak and blatant lies? Simon should learn how to read.

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

"That's Rachel /Alice/ confearacy God only knows who else.

ain't no husband involved, not unless they cut and paste to perfection."

"That's Rachel /Alice/ confearacy God only knows who else.

ain't no husband involved, not unless they cut and paste to perfection."

All you have to do is scroll up for several posts of copy-pasted garbage. They're not mine.

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It's official, got DF'ed last night

by notverylikely in

i'm out.

free at last, free at last..

alice.in.wonderland

Thanks for clearing up the illusion Essan conjured here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/197624/3/High-Control-Groups

Esaan said; "This is where your lie about "choice" is exposed. Why do those who disagree often remain? Because they don't want to be disfellowshipped and made an outcast in the Congregation and have their lifelong friends never speak to them again and have family members, even their children, shun them! Because they have no free choice because it has been denied them by this "high control" cult! If they disagree and this becomes known the price in terms of sanctions by the congregation and the terrible consequences thereof can be too much for many people to bear!"

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"High-Control Groups"

by Consfearacy in

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/similar-religions-to-jehovahs-witnesses.php .

"it is important to understand that in most bible-based cults, although the member is aggressively taught doctrine, it is not the doctrine that holds him in the group.

it is the sense that the group is god's true people, a feeling cultivated by techniques of mind control.

alice.in.wonderland

Rinse and repeat.