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Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG

by mindnumbed in

symposium: beware of apostates!.

satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .

Mary

JWB asked: Mary, how can you copyright 'the truth'?

Good question JWB, but unfortunately, the Borg cares nothing about what is 'the truth'. Eight years ago, a former poster on here who went by the name of Quotes, put a website together that only had quotes from the Craptowers own literature over the last hundred years. He was threatened with a lawsuit from Crooklyn for doing nothing more than quoting 'the truth'. Here are the links where you can read all about it:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/83334/1/Quotes-website-receives-Cease-Desist

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/85111/1/Quotes-website-Defending-and-Legally-Establishing-an-Update

As we all know, the Borg has a limitless supply of lawyers who were willing to drag this stuff out for years but the average person does not have the financial means to do the same. What was so hilarious is that in the brief that Crooklyn filed, it specifically said that Quotes' motive was to "embarass" them, apparently by their own hand. Since he didn't have the means to drag this through litigation, he took the site down but someone over in the UK took it up and it can be found here: http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/

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Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG

by mindnumbed in

symposium: beware of apostates!.

satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .

Mary

How much do you wanna bet that Simon's going to get a notice telling him he has to take this thread down due to "copyright infringement"?

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How many people die because of the Watchtower politics on blood, transplants and vaccinations?

by TJ Curioso in

there are some numbers about this?.

Mary

Well, in my family, the ban on blood transfusions cost my brother in law his life and it nearly cost my father his life twice. If that can happen in one family, I can only imagine how many have died in the last half a century since it became a DF'ing offense. 250,000 is not unreasonable.

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let me see if i got this straight......thats what she said!!!

by Lied2NoMore in

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friends

if a person who gets labelled as "apostate" says something truthful, yet, is unflattering or exposes the wt, it is automatically a lie......... because it came from an.... "apostate".... yet.... if the wt tells a lie, it is the "truth" just because it comes from the wt......and no-one checks to see if it is truthful...... is that right??

?.

Mary

Yes, that is correct.

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Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?

by minimus in

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some elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.

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some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??

Mary

Yepper. Got my ass hauled before them for swearing (can't imagine why) . Yes I know Christians weren't supposed to swear but since one of the elders questioning me was married and boinking a young pioneer sister (who was also married), somehow I figured mine was the lesser transgression.

I also had several 'talks' to 'readjust my thinking' because I would ask alot of questions that apparently sounded like "apostate questions". Surprisingly, I never got the axe for apostasy even though they know I think it's a crock. In fact, I went to my aunt's 60th anniversary party (in another city) a couple of weeks ago and spent the afternoon with a bunch of Dubs I haven't seen in 25 years. Chatted with them but religion never came up.

Something tells me that the Kingdumb Hell has more doubters housed there than JWN.

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Need Help - Parent in ICU

by AudeSapere in

df parent is in hospital icu and surgeon wants to give blood.

parent is df for almost 20 and firmly refused blood for personal reasons (spiritual).. .

my concern is that parent is taking strong stand based on outdated jw gb hlc guidelines.

Mary

Hey Aude, I'm so glad to hear your dad's on the mend and glad I could be of some help.

That sucks about the fires in your area, but glad that you're okay.

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July KM - Jehovah's heart scanner in action

by respectful_observer in

excerpt from july 2013 km article "new initiatives for public witnessing".

4 how the witnessing is done: those.

involved in special metropolitan public.

Mary

I wonder where Jehovah got the idea for a heart scanner............

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Mouthy Grace is not well. Please send love.

by return of parakeet in

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friends

in another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.

i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.

just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..

Mary

Aaawww.....I hope you're doing okay Grace. I'll try go give you a call this weekend!

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Need Help - Parent in ICU

by AudeSapere in

df parent is in hospital icu and surgeon wants to give blood.

parent is df for almost 20 and firmly refused blood for personal reasons (spiritual).. .

my concern is that parent is taking strong stand based on outdated jw gb hlc guidelines.

Mary

Has anyone heard anything from Aude Sapere?

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Need Help - Parent in ICU

by AudeSapere in

df parent is in hospital icu and surgeon wants to give blood.

parent is df for almost 20 and firmly refused blood for personal reasons (spiritual).. .

my concern is that parent is taking strong stand based on outdated jw gb hlc guidelines.

Mary

Hi AudeSpaere: I did a project a few years ago about all their BS doctrines and one of the subjects I did was on blood. Randy Watters has it on his Freeminds page and you can download it. It's in pdf. Go to pages 22 - 25 I believe and feel free to print it off and show it to your father.

When my brother in law was dying, I convinced him and my sister that the Organization's ban on blood tranfusions was absurd and completely without scriptural support. While they did end up taking blood, it was too little, too late for him. Out of frustration and rage at watching him slowly deteriorate, I phoned Bethel and spoke to some idiot in the Writing Dept. about the blood issue. I was prepared for every argument he had. Of course, he was more concerned about who I was and what congregation I went to than in dealing with the issue at hand. Finally at the end of the conversation when he had nothing to back his drivel up, he told me that "if any changes needed to happen, Jehovah would direct it through the "Slave". End of conversation. I really wish I had taped it.

There was someone else on here a couple of years ago who had a family member in the hospital and who was refusing blood. She emailed me about my project and I sent it to her. She printed it off and gave it to their daughter (the person in question) and apparently she read it, thought about it and decided to take the blood.

Here is the link: http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=758:marys-project-an-analysis-of-jehovahs-witness-doctrine&catid=11:bible&Itemid=698

Feel free to PM me as well.

Thanks to Scully for alerting me to this thread.