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  "The END is soooooo close"

  by Phizzy in

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  i notice reported in a number of posts that this seems to a bit of a mantra with the dubbies now, more so than ever in the past.. is this because they are getting desperate for the life they live as jw's to change ?

  they don't really want to end their days with the constant drudgery of the jw life still going on, they want something different, but must "wait on jehovah".

  sigh.. i wonder if this is a small opportunity for us to sow some small, niggling doubt, why not ask, when they spew out the "it is soooo close" nonsense:.

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  Mary

  One of the elders (a former close friend) who came by to invite me to the Memorial last year, told me that it "didn't matter if Armageddon came in our life-time or not", when I had said that they've been telling people it's 'right around the corner' for the last 130 years. After he said that, I replied "if it doesn't matter if it comes in our life time, then why are you going out and telling people that it is!?"

  Unfortunately, the idea that 'Armageddon is imminent' is the center of the Watchtower's universe and they can't let go of that without risking that their entire house of cards will collapse. Without that fear put into the R&F on a daily basis, the New & Improved Faithful Slave might lose authority of their 'domestics', and that has to be avoided at all costs.

  I'm sure that in another hundred years, they will still be out their preaching about how 'close' everyone is to The End, with Field Serve-Us Reports still being handed in at the end of every month. A total waste of human time when you think about all the actual charity work that Witnesses could be involved in that might actually make a difference in peoples' lives.....
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  Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG

  by mindnumbed in

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  2. bible

  symposium: beware of apostates!.

  satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .

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  Mary

  JWB asked: Mary, how can you copyright 'the truth'?

  Good question JWB, but unfortunately, the Borg cares nothing about what is 'the truth'. Eight years ago, a former poster on here who went by the name of Quotes, put a website together that only had quotes from the Craptowers own literature over the last hundred years. He was threatened with a lawsuit from Crooklyn for doing nothing more than quoting 'the truth'. Here are the links where you can read all about it:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/83334/1/Quotes-website-receives-Cease-Desist

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/85111/1/Quotes-website-Defending-and-Legally-Establishing-an-Update

  As we all know, the Borg has a limitless supply of lawyers who were willing to drag this stuff out for years but the average person does not have the financial means to do the same. What was so hilarious is that in the brief that Crooklyn filed, it specifically said that Quotes' motive was to "embarass" them, apparently by their own hand. Since he didn't have the means to drag this through litigation, he took the site down but someone over in the UK took it up and it can be found here: http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/
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  Symposium: Beware of Apostates! - 'God's Word is Truth!' District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses 2013 - not on JW.ORG

  by mindnumbed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  symposium: beware of apostates!.

  satanhuman apostates also of interest ..... the truth brings "not peace, but a sword" .

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  Mary

  How much do you wanna bet that Simon's going to get a notice telling him he has to take this thread down due to "copyright infringement"?
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  How many people die because of the Watchtower politics on blood, transplants and vaccinations?

  by TJ Curioso in

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  2. scandals

  there are some numbers about this?.

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  Mary

  Well, in my family, the ban on blood transfusions cost my brother in law his life and it nearly cost my father his life twice. If that can happen in one family, I can only imagine how many have died in the last half a century since it became a DF'ing offense. 250,000 is not unreasonable.
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  let me see if i got this straight......thats what she said!!!

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  2. friends

  if a person who gets labelled as "apostate" says something truthful, yet, is unflattering or exposes the wt, it is automatically a lie......... because it came from an.... "apostate".... yet.... if the wt tells a lie, it is the "truth" just because it comes from the wt......and no-one checks to see if it is truthful...... is that right??

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  Mary

  Yes, that is correct.
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  Were You Ever Interrogated By The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  some elders enjoy giving the business to the lowly flock thru intimidation.

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  some love to ask you to enter with them into the "backroom".. of course, there were many that never had run-ins with the shepherds because they were under the radar.. did you ever get interrogatted by the elders and if so, how did it go??

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  Mary

  Yepper. Got my ass hauled before them for swearing (can't imagine why) . Yes I know Christians weren't supposed to swear but since one of the elders questioning me was married and boinking a young pioneer sister (who was also married), somehow I figured mine was the lesser transgression.

  I also had several 'talks' to 'readjust my thinking' because I would ask alot of questions that apparently sounded like "apostate questions". Surprisingly, I never got the axe for apostasy even though they know I think it's a crock. In fact, I went to my aunt's 60th anniversary party (in another city) a couple of weeks ago and spent the afternoon with a bunch of Dubs I haven't seen in 25 years. Chatted with them but religion never came up.

  Something tells me that the Kingdumb Hell has more doubters housed there than JWN.
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  Need Help - Parent in ICU

  by AudeSapere in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  df parent is in hospital icu and surgeon wants to give blood.

  parent is df for almost 20 and firmly refused blood for personal reasons (spiritual).. .

  my concern is that parent is taking strong stand based on outdated jw gb hlc guidelines.

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  Mary

  Hey Aude, I'm so glad to hear your dad's on the mend and glad I could be of some help.

  That sucks about the fires in your area, but glad that you're okay.
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  July KM - Jehovah's heart scanner in action

  by respectful_observer in

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  2. beliefs

  excerpt from july 2013 km article "new initiatives for public witnessing".

  4 how the witnessing is done: those.

  involved in special metropolitan public.

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  Mary

  I wonder where Jehovah got the idea for a heart scanner............
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  Mouthy Grace is not well. Please send love.

  by return of parakeet in

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  2. friends

  in another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.

  i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.

  just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..

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  Mary

  Aaawww.....I hope you're doing okay Grace. I'll try go give you a call this weekend!
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  Need Help - Parent in ICU

  by AudeSapere in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  df parent is in hospital icu and surgeon wants to give blood.

  parent is df for almost 20 and firmly refused blood for personal reasons (spiritual).. .

  my concern is that parent is taking strong stand based on outdated jw gb hlc guidelines.

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  Mary

  Has anyone heard anything from Aude Sapere?