Yes, up early and watched Fiji V Namibia - not too shabby. Looking forward to SA v Wales though...
Thetis
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Rugby World Cup 2011
by dm6 in21 days to go!.
whos looking forward to it?.
any kiwis here on this board?.
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Your top 5 most irritating doctrines/practices?
by cedars init's clear that virtually everyone on here is infuriated by wt teachings/doctrines/practices, but i would really like to know what is of most concern to people who frequent this forum.. here is my top 5, number 1 being the most significant/infuriating:.
the disfellowshipping practice - expanded to include family members (but not parents) who are old enough to leave home.
wrecks families and creates abject fear once people find out the truth about the organization.the blood issue - another unmerciful teaching, but one that costs lives.unquestioned authority of governing body - a handful of men make life-altering decisions as representatives of a larger group of people who they never see or speak to, and yet they demand unquestioning obedience on pain of being disfellowshipped.failed prophecy - the fulfilment of huge swathes of bible prophecy, including revelation, has been attributed to the events of the early 20th century, and the actions of a small group of men.two-tier christianity - faithful and discreet slave are anointed who go to heaven to whom ransom provisions apply directly, whereas remainder, or "great crowd" stay on earth and form a sub-class, only access benefits of ransom through fds.i realise that many of these issues are inter-related, but that's roughly how i would put them.
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Thetis
Would like to add another one which is my pet peeve.... Discouraging any involvement in charitable work....
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Your top 5 most irritating doctrines/practices?
by cedars init's clear that virtually everyone on here is infuriated by wt teachings/doctrines/practices, but i would really like to know what is of most concern to people who frequent this forum.. here is my top 5, number 1 being the most significant/infuriating:.
the disfellowshipping practice - expanded to include family members (but not parents) who are old enough to leave home.
wrecks families and creates abject fear once people find out the truth about the organization.the blood issue - another unmerciful teaching, but one that costs lives.unquestioned authority of governing body - a handful of men make life-altering decisions as representatives of a larger group of people who they never see or speak to, and yet they demand unquestioning obedience on pain of being disfellowshipped.failed prophecy - the fulfilment of huge swathes of bible prophecy, including revelation, has been attributed to the events of the early 20th century, and the actions of a small group of men.two-tier christianity - faithful and discreet slave are anointed who go to heaven to whom ransom provisions apply directly, whereas remainder, or "great crowd" stay on earth and form a sub-class, only access benefits of ransom through fds.i realise that many of these issues are inter-related, but that's roughly how i would put them.
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Thetis
1. Shunning/Disfellowshipping
2. Blood
3. Treatment of women as second rate citizens - this would include the humiliation of young women by elders during JC's
4. Their stance on higher education
5. Their stance on worldly psychologists
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Rugby World Cup 2011
by dm6 in21 days to go!.
whos looking forward to it?.
any kiwis here on this board?.
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Thetis
I'll be rooting for the All Blacks - although not my home country. Perhaps its something to do with my Dad always supporting them - then again, it could be the haka... Interesting info about the Haka Sizemik....
Hope to be back to watch the opening ceremony..
I don't hope for an upset on Sunday though....
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My family just found out my grandfather died...6 months ago!
by noni1974 inyeah thatnks jw step grandmother bitch.
i can't believe that she would not call her step sons and let them know their father had passed away.
my father is a jw also and my little sister sees this woman at assemblies and she didn't bother to call anyone.
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Thetis
This is something that truly touches me. My first husband was tragically killed when my son was very young. I recently heard that his Father, my
son's grandfather had died about 6 months ago. I'm angry that elder ex BIL or his current wife couldn't have let us know - specifically my son.
The ties that bind a family are non existent in their world. At the drop of a hat, they erase you from their life and think nothing of it. They speak of
love which they do not practise.
Sorry you had to go through this.
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My Father passed away during the night
by jwfacts indad was a great man, great, despite the religion.
he was powerful, tall and intelligent, yet humble and kind.
he was an introvert, and a circuit overseer.
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Thetis
You seem to have inherited so many of his qualities. I am so sorry for your loss but happy that you had time to make peace.
I often think my Dad, by not being too dogmatic, also gave me freedom, albeit at a heavy price.
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..Which has Caused You the Most Grief in Your Life..The Outside World or Watchtower World?..
by OUTLAW inaccording to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .
the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .
which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...
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Thetis
Love it! - A thousand stories of Madness
OR
How to become psychotic, neurotic, depressed or uneducated....chuckle..
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Do you have ...
by talesin inan inspirational quote or saying you would like to share?
i have a little book that i write stuff down in,, some funny, some serious .... .
here's one i stole from a friend's f/b feed..... .
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Thetis
Thought these were rather apt -
"It took me a long time not to judge myself through someóne else's eyes". - Sally Field
"It is never too late to be what you might have been." - George Eliot
And then the day came,
when the risk
to remain tight
in a bud
was more painful
than the risk
it took
to Blossom - Anais Nin
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..Which has Caused You the Most Grief in Your Life..The Outside World or Watchtower World?..
by OUTLAW inaccording to the wbt$... the outside world is supposed to be a horrible place... .
the outside world hasn't caused me nearly as much grief,as watchtower world... outside world (5% grief).....watchtower world..(95% grief)... .
which has caused you the most grief in your life... the outside world or watchtower world?...
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Thetis
I sure miss those days in WTW- working with brother "psychotic" who jammed his foot in the door - spittle flying as he spoke about the harlot and Babylon the Great and you are only 6 years old. Or how about seeing the sadness of the elderly couple whose only son has been disfellowshipped and you hear the whispers of the adults about them being spiritually weak as they haven't cut ties with him ..
Then you see the bowed head of the grandfather who took blood to save his life.....and you know something is wrong but you are too young too understand and you should be happy because you are constantly told how happy Jehovah's people are....so there is clearly something wrong with you...
Roll on the teenage years - the Elder who lords over you and subjects you to humiliation - don't get me started on brother "amoeba brain" who calls on you to do a shepherding call and pats himself on the back for shepherding the flock with love when all he has done is read from an outline... he doesn't know how fragile your state of mind is....and then discusses your son's red tie which is way too bright....heaven forbid such an indiscretion.....sure miss those days...
To quote Aristotle:-"would you rather be a happy pig or an unhappy human"" - and yes there are times when I drown in despair (because of the residue left by them) but I would rather be a very conscious human....
So, grief in WTW would be 98%. I'm sorry about your parents. Still cannot understand my Dad - he was intelligent but way too sensitive and wanted a better life....the irony of it all. He died a broken man.... sorry about the rant.....
And Shamus, please write that book.....
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Why do exJW family members not reach out to other exJW family members?
by truthseeker ini don't know if this strange phenomenon is unique to my family but it seems that those who have left the truth have little to no interest in reaching out to those family members who have also left the religion.. it seems topsy turvy to me.
surely, there would be common ground and mutual support for those leaving/have left but this does not seem to be the case.. does anyone else have this problem?.
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Thetis
Agree with all that has been said. I have an ex brother-in-law that I would love to contact. However, his brother is an elder and this makes me anxious. Will he mention how I feel and how will this impact on my own family? So sad that we are still affected by them......even if it doesn't work out, at least it would be wonderful to have that choice of finding out....