Posts by exwhyzee

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Black People Would Become White in the Paradise?

by God_Delusion in

i have just been informed that the watchtower society lovingly stated that all black people would become, over time, white.

this would happen when the earth is to become a paradise.. please tell me that what i have heard are the mutterings of a fool and can't possibly be true!.

my wife is of mixed-race origin and i quite like her the way she is.

exwhyzee

In a world where racial barriers have been done away with it seems possible that after a million years and on into eternity, people would end up speaking the same language and the children that were born that far into the stream of time would have a similar color. I imagine that would be a medium tanish color maybe. How blah would that be?

It seems like those that lived through armageddon would stay the same color/race as they always were. What would cause that to change ? Imagine, for all eternity, everyone would know you were one of the original survivors just because you were a distinctive color.

What about the ones that get resurrected ? Can you imagine coming back to life as a completly different race than you were when you died?

The whole eternity thing seems more and more preposterous to me as time goes on.

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Were you afraid of Armageddon?

by cyberjesus in

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i was dfd in 1995 however i still believed it was the truth until 2009. and until then i was fearful of armageddon's day.. i remember every time i'd see a dark sky with thunders and lighting i would question if that was it.

the news of any major disaster, hurricanes earthquakes would ignite fear inside me and i would think that could be the beginning of the end.. when i was around 8 i remember going to visit my grandma and she was watching the news.

a major conflict in the middle east had ended and some president said that the world was not in peace.

exwhyzee

I was afraid my non Witness Dad was going to be killed because he studied but did not get baptized after comming to an accurate knowledge. At one point, they even said our worldly friends and family would turn on us. I was afraid to trust my own Father. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to protect my two little sisters, one of which was 12 years younger than me. The older of the two used to become hysterical when the Watchtower lessons or talks would indicate that our Father would be killed at Armegeddon. As I've said on here before, our father died violently in her arms after not taking a blood transfusion. I wondered why I would be destroyed by Jehovah if I gave in to physical torture, because this was the same punishment the person torturing me would receive. I never did a thing wrong (snitched a few cookies) but was certain that even if I did survive the torture that sure to happen, I wouldn't be allowed in the new system anyway because I didn't love going out in service or to the meetings like everyone else did

It's so sick what their religious fanatic beliefs did to thousands and thousands of us children....and none of them will admit that it ever happened. And for that reason alone....I can never forgive them.

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Question on real estate dispute

by Gerard in

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my question involves real estate located in the state of wisconsin, usa.. .

i bought a property with some forest land a few months ago.

there is a neighbour that claims access to my property (he goes through it to access the main county snowmobile trail).

exwhyzee

If in fact there is an easement agreement or Quit Claim Deed that wasn't revealed in your original title search, there may be compensation due from the title insurance company that was involved when you purchased the property. That's what it's there for to cover any defects in the title that may cause the lender or owner any monitary loss etc.

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Thunderbollox

by Terry in

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noodling around with a twangy guitar i came up with thunderball:.

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thunderball.

exwhyzee

Very cool....so ultra 1960's... Austin Power(ish).....was any of that you playing?

The first time I heard that song was on an ocean liner (H.M.S Franconia) crossing the atlantic. We were on our way to spend the summer in London and in Ireland. My Mother was deathly afraid of flying so whenever we went to see the family , instead of flying we took a train (3 days and 3 nights) from Vancouver Canada and boarded a Cunard ship in Quebec. They showed movies everyday on the ship and James Bond was all the rage then. My brother and I snuck into see Thunderball when my Mom was laying out by the pool. Never would have been allowed to see this otherwise.

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Is it fashionable to wear animal print clothing? JWN ladies, do you wear that kind of stuff?

by miseryloveselders in

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a friend of mine made the statement that only old women wear animal print clothing.

she said this some weeks ago, and ever since i have been noticing that it is the more mature of the mature population still wearing leopard print, and zebra print fashions.

granted occasionally i see younger gals wearing that stuff too, but its usually as an accessory such as a shawl.

exwhyzee

Makes me think of Cher as Laverne.....also Dame Edna.

http://www.fotolog.com/sharecher/45813710

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Why did "Back Calls" change to "Return Visits"?

by donuthole in

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does anyone remember the rationale that was used in rebranding "back calls" as "return visits"?.

while on the subject does anyone else remember any theocratic name changes like,.

district assembly to district convention.

exwhyzee

Why change colporter to pioneer?

Cole Porter was an American Composer of Broadway Musicals etc and that name was associated with having a good time, which would have been inappropriate . The term Pioneer was adopted because like the Amish, early JW's drove around in Covered Wagons. (4 door of course because 2 doors are just too hard to get in and out of)

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I can spot JW's a mile away....

by lalaa in

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so earlier today i was having lunch with my sister when 3 ladies walked in to the restaurant.

one in her early 20's..one in her late 30's early 40's and the last one maybe somewhere in her 50's.

when i looked up and glanced at them i said to my sister that i bet those are jw's since they were all dressed in service clothes.

exwhyzee

Not everyone has the "trained eye" or their "JW Dar" isn't very sensitive for some reason.

To solve that problem Home Depot is now selling "Bible Detectors" that they can install on their front doors ....so they know when to hide.

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It's Really Just a Social Club

by Eiben Scrood in

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at least for many..... i remember looking around at meetings and so many in the audience seemed to be in another world.

people would get up and talk at the back shamelessly.

meetings were a good opportunity to make plans with friends.

exwhyzee

Good topic... I agree with Elben and Undercover and have said much the same thing for decades. The social aspect is the only thing that holds the whole thing together. The doctrines are just a minor inconveniences.

Most are clueless about the real history of the organization, just how completely whacky some of the beliefs are. It's Jehovah this and Jehovah that. Revelation?

Daniel? 1914-1919, 1922, 1926, 1938, 1944 - all identified as prophetic years? Most have no clue let alone being able to show something from the Bible proving

these dates

So true....yet when it comes to shunning someone who left the game.....they're all over it ....only too happy to comply ! Nothing gives you a feeling of superiority and camaraderie like a good shunning.

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They keep pushing and pushing for the rank and file to do more and more. Dec 15 WT

by life is to short in

they are causing mental problems by pushing and pushing the ones in to do more and more and more.. the dec 15th wt on page 7 says .

"you have a document that needs a certain person's attention by the end of the day.

you mare it urgent!

exwhyzee

JAM...I hear what you are saying. I remember getting chewed out back in the late 70's, by householedrs or having them exclaim " Hey someone else from your church was here just a few days ago ! ". One time I knocked on the door of a house and when the lady answered it, I could see straight through to the back door which was open and a pair of Witnesses were standing on her back porch. I live a few miles from the local hall and I haven't seen one person in the door to door work here in the last 3 years. I think the majority of Witnesses now are "Born in's " and they don't have the sense of urgency that the WT Society wants them to have. They've heard it all too many times before.

Lukewarm. Good job on finding those old articles. It's funny that they aren't able to check thier own literature the way you did, to verify that they aren't contradicting themselves.

Having to spread the "urgent message" from door to door when Television and the Internet could get it done more efficiently is like rushing to the Emergency Room on a pair of roller skates while a perfectly good car sits in your driveway.

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'The past doesnt matter-what matters is now, we dont get caught up in the past

by Joliette in

exwhyzee

The past doesn't matter...what matters now is not to get caught up in the past.

This sentiment doesn't apply when the Watchtower folks drag up every error made by the Catholic Church, the United Nations, Governments of the world and anything connected with what they call Babylon the Great.

Work done by charitable organizations, humanitarian efforts, strides toward peace, cleaning up the environment etc...are glossed over. All past errors, (except their own) are continually thrown in the faces of any group they choose to denigrate in their literature. All of mankind not associated with their organization are painted with the same brush....Condemned.