'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'
To be fair...that wasn't a prophesy...more of an error in calculations or misreporting of information. But still you'd think the mouthpiece for God would have gotten it right the first time.
exwhyzee
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Watchtower published the SAME EVENT TWICE...wrong both times!!
by Terry in1873 [six thousand years of man's existence ends in a.d. 1873] {wr apr 1880 88}.
1873 "here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of adam to a.d. 1873 was six thousand years.
and though the bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of christ's reign, the great sabbath day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation.. if, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in a.d. 1873, be proving that we are already in it.
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OK, WHO HERE IS GOING TO WATCH THE ROYAL WEDDING???
by Mary ini admit it----i plan on getting up at 4:00 freaking am to watch it.
i remember getting up around that time 30 years ago .
anyone else plan on watching it?.
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exwhyzee
I wonder if Beatrice's hat pulls in Showtime or HBO ?
The Princes car was pretty cool too !
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Primal emotions
by JeffT ina while back dogpatch posted some thoughts about primal emotions and joining/leaving the wt.
at the time, being the pathological intellectual i am, i disagreed with him.
i thought it was all about doctrine and scriptual analysis.
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exwhyzee
In looking back I realize that I joined out of emotional need. I was in a dark place in my life and these people came into my life and offered hope, community and all the answers. Upon reflection I don't think it made any difference what those answers were.
Yep...that's often who is targeted...very intentionally....and we thought we were helping them. I suppose in a way it got you through the dark spot you spoke of...gaving you a sort of , felt board and marker to look at while you were lost, metaphorically. Those of us who were raised in the "Truth" didn't have a chance to see anything other than that side of things...this was the truth and you would be destroyed if you didn't believe it. Some would say that was a good thing...we avoided a lot of heartache. Others would disagree.
I think this is why the average JW has been impervious to discussions of facts. As long as he's content with his position, he won't care what the facts are.
Yes....the facts are just a side issue....it's simply a nice side benefit when the beliefs happened to make sense .....when they don't, they can be simply ignored so long as the feeling of contentment remains intact. It all goes along swimmingly and one can feel very selfsatisfied, thinking they have all the answers. That is, until the day reality collides with some of the especially flimsy teachings and one forced out of their place of complacency and into a place where it becomes necessary to re-examine ones beliefs and how they were obtained.
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OK, WHO HERE IS GOING TO WATCH THE ROYAL WEDDING???
by Mary ini admit it----i plan on getting up at 4:00 freaking am to watch it.
i remember getting up around that time 30 years ago .
anyone else plan on watching it?.
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exwhyzee
I only saw a little of the re-cap on the news. I saw Harry saying something funny to William as the Bride came down the asile... I don't know why, but ever I saw Harry as a little boy sticking his tounge out at the paparazzi, he's been my favorite.
I do have to wonder how soon we'll be hearing all the scandalous reports from the tabloids. So far I've heard them say there was something wrong with Kate's sister wearing a white dress...horrors! I'm sure we'll soon be hearing that the young couple fought on their honeymoon and slept in diffrent hotel rooms! or that Kate is pregnant with Elton John's Baby.
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JW at My Door Admits That Shes Had Doubts
by Broken Promises inthe background: a female jw who introduced herself as lisa came to my door a couple of weeks ago with a memorial invitation.
i acknowledged that i knew what it was about, and had asked her why they dont accept the wine and bread.
we had a discussion about that, with me stating that the bible only gives a heavenly hope, not an earthly one.
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exwhyzee
Don't you just feel sorry for that Sister ....standing there all alone presenting the teachings of a faceless organization...haven't we all been in that position before ? That of having been sent out to teach or defend something we haven't fully looked into from all angles for ourselves because we weren't supposed to question what we were taught.
I'm glad you took it easy on her....these kind of discoveries can really rock your world, when you've grow up as a Witness.
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Birthday Warning
by Luo bou to init's my birthday today, i'm 63. i know your thrilled to hear that and are likely to party hard with wild abandonment, but please be careful not to worship me.
i am only a creature.
it's ok to worship the gb though.
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exwhyzee
If only it were a baby shower or an anniversary you were celebrating instead of a measly 63rd Birthday, which we all know you are only observing to draw attention away from God !
OFF WITH YER 63 YEAR OLD HEAD I SAY ! (where did I put my platter? )
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What constitutes a wicked person?
by SuperSpook indo you agree with the bible's definition of wickedness?.
do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit gods kingdom?
do not be misled.
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exwhyzee
Wicked People who will be destroyed at Armegeddon.
1. Axe Murderers.
2. Unwed Mothers
3. JW Kids who steal cookies out of the cookie jar, don't sit still and listen at the meeting or don't genuinely enjoy going from door to door.
4. JW women who forgot to wear a headcovering when showing a man anything about the Bible.
5.People who vote
6. JW's who only went out out in service 30 hours this month when they could've put in 35 hours if only they hadn't slept in that one Saturday morning.
All shall equally receive everlasting cutting off !
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How Many of Them Do You Know About?
by clarity inafter flipper's thread about the wt child abuse cases, i started to think about how many children i know of personally who have been sexually abused by a jw!.
as someone who is not especially 'in the know', it's amazing that i do know five of them.
one who was a small baby, at the time!.
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exwhyzee
As you can see, my comment above is blank. I had posted some information I learned on this subject but decided to delete it because I didn't want to get myself or anyone else in hot water by sharing too much. I'm going to use the word (allegedly) quite often in this condensed version, to avoid problems... you be the judge.
While I was "IN" I never heard of any (alleged) child abuse cases but now that I think of it, I'm sure it must have happened from time to time. However, I only heard word of these (alleged) happenings, after leaving the Organization myself. I thought the accounts I was hearing of, here and elsewhere, might be a bit exaggerated....sour grapes etc. and sort of discounted them. It was easier to believe and hope this was so. That is until I ran into an old friend who (allegedly) left the "Truth" over this matter himself. All I can say is he is a very reliable and honorable individual who was (allegedly) involved with investigating, in various locations around the country, certain difficult molestation cases. He was also( allegedly) involved in other assignments with the Socitey that included international travel. He left the "Truth" altogether after hearing first hand some pretty horrific stories of (alleged ) sucide, institutionalizations and cover-ups and saw the somewhat voyeuristic way these investigations were handled at times and how enduring these amateurish investigations, effected the victims. In the end, he was removed himself for (allegedly) wanting to notify an unsuspecting congregation that a man who had been reinstated after serving a prison term for (alleged) Child Molestation, was to be released from prison soon and would be attending their Hall. He was (allegedly) told by the society to keep his mouth shut. Which he wouldn't, and didn't do, and was (allegedly) removed as an Elder.
I have no evidence myself that these things are true but it seems to me, where there's smoke there's fire.
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How Many of Them Do You Know About?
by clarity inafter flipper's thread about the wt child abuse cases, i started to think about how many children i know of personally who have been sexually abused by a jw!.
as someone who is not especially 'in the know', it's amazing that i do know five of them.
one who was a small baby, at the time!.
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The meetings used to make me physically sick.
by FifthOfNovember init's 9:10 sunday morning.
i'm dressed already, and just finished rushing through my watchtower a few seconds ago.
now i need to wait for my ride to pick me up (i couldn't drive yet).
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exwhyzee
I'm seeing a pattern here...aren't you.
When I was "IN" I blamed the feeling of panic and anxiety on Satan or on my own spiritual lacking. Towards the end, the only way I could get through a meeting or assembly was to bring a container of beer that I would keep in my vehicle. I would go out to the parking lot and take a few sips, just enough to stop the stomach flip flops. I'm not much of a drinker so it didn't take much to calm me down. It really helped.
My last meeting, 3 or so years ago, was the last time I've felt that way. My subconcious had been sending me physical signals that enough was enough and it was time to end the charade. What a sense of elation it was on meeting nights, not having to go.