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  Since exiting the Witnesses have you Become More " Spiritual " ? - Not ........

  by flipper in

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  ..... necessarily more religious, but more spiritual in a non-religious way ?

  although being religious is one of the definitions os " spiritual " it encompasses much more in the webster's new world dictionary , under the word spiritual it's definition is : " 1. of the spirit or the soul as distinguished from the body or material matters 2. of, from, or concerned with the intellect ; intellectual 3. of or consisting of spirit ; not corporeal 4. characterized by the ascendancy of the spirit ; showing much refinement of thought and feeling 5. of religion or the church ; sacred, devotional, or ecclesiastical ; not lay or temporal 6. spiritualistic or supernatural .

  quite a variety of definitions !

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  exwhyzee

  I suppose it depends on how you define being "spiritual" To me it means looking beyond the here and now and beyond the obvious physical clues we have so far and listening to your own inner knowings or for other parts of your consciousness that might be somewhat drowned out by the daily noise of ones life. I think I've always been kinda' spiritual, at least I was willing to look into it, but I was made to feel like I was doing it wrong...was deficient somehow. Now that I'm doing things or looking into things because they speak to me for some reason, it comes much more easily and with greater satisfaction.

  I don't know if there is a God or not...how can that even be proven without a shadow of a doubt ? Maybe it's none of our business and thats why he,(if he exists) didn't make things more obvious to us. I've gotten comfortable with not knowing. I've taken on a more "wait and see" attitude. I am not responsible for having the answers to all the big picture questions, sharing my answers with others and judging them if they don't act on what I've told them.
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  George Clooney arrested

  by sizemik in

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  2. current

  http://entertainment.msn.co.nz/article.aspx?id=8436695.

  george clooney arrested.

  george clooney and his father have been arrested during a protest outside the sudanese embassy, and the actor says he has asked president barack obama to engage china on stopping a humanitarian crisis in northern africa.. the protesters accuse sudanese president omar al-bashir of provoking a humanitarian crisis and blocking food and aid from entering the nuba mountains in the county's border region with south sudan.. clooney, his father nick and others were arrested on friday after being warned three times not to cross a police line outside the embassy.

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  exwhyzee

  I smell a publicity stunt.
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  Carrying a gun out in service

  by Blind_Of_Lies in

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  exwhyzee

  A Witness shows up out of the blue in a remote territory and the paranoid reclusive homeowner answers the door with a gun. The frigntened Witness pulls a gun out of his bookbag and things get serious because the homeowner now feels like the Witness really is a threat after all. He moves to shoot only the Witness fires first and nails the guy fatally. Which one of them will be at fault ? The homeowner who felt threatened by a stranger who in fact was carrying a gun or a gun tote'n stranger who shot a homeowner at his own front door? Would the presence of a second gun have caused a bad situation to escalate beyond what it would have been? It seems to me statistics have shown that the individual who carrys a gun just for protection often winds up as a victim of his own weapon. When he is called upon to use it he is taken by surprise rather than the calculated move his attacker is carrying out.

  That having been said, it would help you feel less vulnerable to at least have something at your disposal to give you an advantage in one of these situations.
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  Carrying a gun out in service

  by Blind_Of_Lies in

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  exwhyzee

  But I carried a handgun in my book back at all times. It was a small .45 that had its own little pocket that remained zipped closed.

  A gun zipped up in the pocket of a book bag that contains Bible literature is not only a bit ironic but seems like it would be a bit useless once someone has pulled a gun on you, unless of course they gave you a few minutes to get it out.
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  A Popular Question Raised by people who were never JW.

  by Momma-Tossed-Me in

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  i talk to a lot of people about the watchtower because it comes up in conversation all of the time.. money eventually becomes a topic as it is a very wealthy corporation.. so the question is always raised and it is a good one, "who controls it?".

  people want to know "who has the power of the purse strings?

  " and quite frankly so do i.. there is someone behind the scenes who knows so much that the wtbts could never fire him or her.

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  exwhyzee

  How do they sleep at night ?

  They soothe themselves to sleep by engaging in heavy cognitive dissonance. ie " Well....even if it's not "the truth" it's a good way of life "

  People want to know "Who has the power of the purse strings?" and quite frankly so do I

  I can't say who it is for sure, but I'll bet that, "Andre" fella, has someting to do with it.
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  Had another "Aha!" moment reading last Sunday's WT.

  by Open mind in

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  2. beliefs

  since waking up to "the truth about the truth" several years ago there have been numerous "aha!

  " moments.

  i also think of them as "how could i have been so stupid?

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  exwhyzee

  Whether the Apostles were awake or asleep the outcome would have been the same. In order to save all mankind, Jesus had to die. It was fortold, right ? By staying awake, what would have they have been attempting to accomplish ? Fight the guards off and keep him alive for a few more weeks ? He was supposed to be rejected....he was supposed to die. The apostles were mere earthlings caught in this crazy universal sovereignty debacle supposedly between God and Satan.

  The watchtower corp always manages to put themselves in the place of Jesus and then apply his words to the rest of us in a scolding manner which is intended to shame you into doing more for them.

  The Apostles question to the SON OF GOD "Master where are we to go, for you have the sayings of life " Is applied to mean that leaving the Watchtower Corperation is the same as abandoning Jesus or even God himself.

  Belonging to the Watchtower Corperation means you're a Witness of Jehovah when in reality if Gods name is Jehovah, anyone who speaks about him is one of Jehovah's Witness.
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  Are You A Screwed Up Adult Because You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  or did it not matter that you were ever a witness---you're a bit screwy, anyway?.

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  exwhyzee

  I think there were some benefits to being a Witness but then I realize that it's the residue of Witness logic that is causing me to think this.
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  Is there ANY JW belief/doctrine that has remained the same from start to now?

  by journey-on in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was trying to think of one teaching or doctrine that has remained consistent from the society's inception to now, and couldn't.

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  can you give me one?.

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  exwhyzee

  We're right....everyone else is wrong because they are being led by Satan. Any time we change a belief, it's because God in his infinite wisdom, didn't want us to know the real understanding until now. Even if we change our beliefs in the future, you must not have doubts, you are to go out and teach it to other people whether you understand it or not.
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  is jws really growing or only natural increases from kids.?

  by mP in

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  firstly yes we all know most jw bornins leave but a quarter give or take continue.

  im going to argue that this is the only source of any increase.

  those that leave are barely replaced if at all by new recruits in third world countries.

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  exwhyzee

  The Congregation I attended split 3 times remodeled once and built a new hall once, because of growth. Everyone new to the Hall was raised in the Truth and newly married with small kid(s) of thier own. There was only one (never been a JW) new person in our Hall who was brought in because he was married to a DF'd JW girl who was reactivated when someone found her at the door. It was a big deal when he came into "the truth" He cut his hair, became a MS etc. Sadly, two months ago, he committed suicide.

  When I look at the facebooks of the Witnesses I know, all the kids who left the truth still keep in touch with eachother as well as the ones that stayed in. It doesn't seem to matter to the young ones whether they are DF DA or whatever, they still keep in contact. Things are really getting lax...not that I'm complaining. I think in another decade, this religion will just sort of fizzle out.
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  Phone call from the local JWs this evening...

  by Jim_TX in

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  gosh i wish i was better at having religious discussions with jws.

  this evening, as i am at home trying to relax, i get a phone call from the local jws who are evidently sitting in their kh dialing out.. i got this man who starts off by asking me if he can ask me a question.

  "okaaaaay..." i say slowly.... "do you think..." he starts... and then stops... obviously losing his place in his pre-prepared sermon....

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  exwhyzee

  You should have said

  "There's no way you can be one Jehovah's Witnesses ! Don't they pride themselves for being the only ones who go from door to door. They would never be stickin' up for Jesus over the phone like this....are you prankin' me ??? "