Posts by exwhyzee

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my DF-ing letter - opinions

by raxxxx in

to the body of elders in xxxxx.. .

i no longer wish to recognised as one of the jehovah's witnesses due to the fact that i no longer believe that this 'organisation' is truly representing him because :.

i have experienced greater and unconditional love/friendship with the people i am supposed to hate 'worldly people' than i did in this congregation.

exwhyzee

I understand the desire to write a DA letter and how theraputic it would be but to me it says,

A )You view them as someone with actual authority. In your letter you stated in so many words that you don't believe they represent God nor do they have the truth so why do you feel it necessary to explain anything to them especially anything as personal as your relationship with God.

B) You care what they think. You've explained that they are spreaders of untruths and that you have received more love from non JW's than from those in the Congregation so why bother with them? Most of the time in life we just walk away from or distance ourselves from people we don't trust or those who seem like they don't care about us. To announe it to them beforehand seems childish and needy....even sort of "drama" based. "You're not nice so I'm never going to speak to you again"

C)You want or expect them to take the next step in the process which is Disfellowshiping you. When you write a letter like this you are drawing a line in the sand for them to step over. As legalistic as they are, they will have no problem exercising their "in house" self appointed authority. You've made it easy for them. They don't have to do any homework or gather any facts to find out what is going on with you. You've spelled it all out for them and you've put it all in writing, nice and legal like for them to file away for anyone to dredge up in the future.

As much as you'd like to give them a piece of your mind, what you're really doing is burning bridges behind you. You sound pretty young and it's easy to be impetuous when one is young. You are giving them the power to yet again have some sort of say in your life and to have an impact on it forever. There is no where in the Bible that says that you must write a letter to anyone explaining your beliefs and your actions. This is their little custom. If you don't acknowledge it....it doesn't exist.

Have a little mystery about yourself....let them wonder about you...give them nothing.

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Changed my Last Will and Testament

by time2keepmoving in

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i had to change my will and insurance policy and remove my relative who is still a witnesses as a beneficiary of my life insurance policy and exclude them from receiving any of my assets.

i hated to do it but i did not want them giving any of my money to the wts if i pass away.

i know if i left them anything they would look at it as a 'blessing from jehovah' and would definitely take any monies i left them and put some of it in the contribution box.

exwhyzee

Funny thing is .... your relative abandoned you at the say so of the Orginazation but would probably take your "evil apostate" money without batting an eye. I think you did them a favor....now they won't be in a position to compromise their principals.

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out of the closet

by so confused in

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so this week was stressful and emotional.

my husband's witness family found out that we where not attending meeting anymore.

she stated if "i keep talking like i am i'm going to get myself disfellowshiped.

exwhyzee

I agree with Clarity....you owe no one an explaination regarding your relationship with God. JW's think they have the market cornered in that area and always take an authoritarian position in any discussion on the matter. I'd not offer them any excuses, apologies or explainations.The more you explain yourself to them the more of a position of defense you place yourself in. Let them discover for themselves the truth about their own religion. Don't give them any ammunition to use against you. Sometimes those who've recently left the TRUTH are as off putting to their friends and family as those who have just become JW's because they are too fervent about their new discoveries. No matter what you say, you'll be branded an Apostate (their term for anyone who doesn't agree with THEM...not just God) ....Keep it to yourself as much as possible.

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Show this to your favorite JW

by exwhyzee in

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in case some of you haven't seen this, i thought i'd share a list of questions that i ran across that i thought would be appropriate to print out and leave with family members who are still caught up in the "organization" or to have on hand should they call at my door.

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jwquestions.htm.

exwhyzee

In case some of you haven't seen this, I thought I'd share a list of questions that I ran across that I thought would be appropriate to print out and leave with family members who are still caught up in the "Organization" or to have on hand should they call at my door. http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jwquestions.htm

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What has helped you avoid the doctrine roundabout and forever chasing your tail?

by Fernando in

i was a third generation born-in with no alternative reality, reference points or framework.. for more than forty years i was taught that the highest stakes (eternal life) main game is played on the doctrine playing field (supremacist ethnocentrism).

my eternal future apparently depended on which side of the trinity, hellfire and immortal soul doctrines i played.. apparently if i believed the watchtower way, even if it changed, i was in "the faith" and "the truth".

the same for legalism (supremacist self-righteousness attained by following the supposedly "right" but ever changing and inconsistent rules).. around 6 years ago, and for the first time in my life, one person asked me to explain what "the gospel" is in one word.

exwhyzee

After growing up in the TRUTH, I was fully convinced by Jehovah's Witnesses(without really checking) that other religions were totally wrong and were hated by God. Now that I've left the TRUTH, I no longer want anything to do with God, Religion or Religious People. I am calmer and more peaceful than I've ever been. If there is a God, I will do whatever it is he wants me to do, but he has to be clear about what he wants and I must be sure it's actually him that is instructing me and it's him that I'm serving. I almost can not bear to read some of the posts on here if they get too much into doctrine. I am fed up with discussing the Bible after a lifetime of agonizing over the significane or implied meaning of this or that scripture, are my sideburns too long, did I place enough magazines, am I whole souled enough, is the end right around the corner etc. I question everything I was ever taught about God and have re-evaluated my stand on just about every issue. I never had a chance to ask, How did we get here ... Why do we grow old and die etc. It was all force fed to me with one sided information that I wasn't allowed to question. Believe this or you're gonna' die kid.

Maybe the reason God (if he exists) isn't clear about the big picture is because it's none of our business to know what the future holds for man or maybe we couldn't handle such information. All I know is that if there is a God, Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization will have a lot to answer for in terms of turning people away from him, harming individuals with their self imposed authority,breaking up families and condemning the faith of others and wasting peoples time as well as their lives.

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Anyone been to a meeting after a drink...or three?

by MMXIV in

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i recall going to the second half of a thursday night meeting after what was meant to be a cheeky after work beer (three strong beers downed quickly on an empty stomach).

i would have been ok had a caring elder not decided to grab me for some encouragement afterwards.. i hoped the faint odor of smoke on my clothes (smoking in pubs was still the done thing in those days) wouldn't be noticed but hard to hide alcohol on the breath.

i tried to say very little and talk in a way that avoided me beathing over him.

exwhyzee

I'm not a drinker at all but toward the last months of my Career as a JW, I'd have to hide a container of Beer in the car due to the panic and anxiety I'd started suffering toward the last. I'd gotten to the point of only being able to attend Sunday meetings, it was too much to attend the evening meetings after work. I didn't have the juice to endure the anxiety that meetings invoked. On Sundays I'd go out to the car during the break between the talk and the WT study and have a couple of mouthfuls just to calm the flip flops in my stomach. It really helped. I almost came to think of it as "merciful liquid from Jehovah" It's so pathetic to look back now and think that that's what it took for me to be able to get through a meeting. As soon as I made my mind up never to attend another meeting the panic and anxiety instantly went away and hasn't returned. I can easily see how someone could become dependant on alcohol if they kept that kind of behaviour up for any length of time.

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Fun with the July 15th WT illustration

by undercover in

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yes, friends, it's that time once more... when we clip some wt art to a post and try to find all the subliminal wt propaganda messages hidden in the illustration.

(kinda like, "can you find the differences between these two drawings" for kids in the sunday comics).

here's the illustration:.

exwhyzee

What's the chubby dude carrying in the background? A skateboard??

That's Chris Farley trying to lure the JW kid into gluttony.

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Fun with the July 15th WT illustration

by undercover in

jw
friends

yes, friends, it's that time once more... when we clip some wt art to a post and try to find all the subliminal wt propaganda messages hidden in the illustration.

(kinda like, "can you find the differences between these two drawings" for kids in the sunday comics).

here's the illustration:.

exwhyzee

They must not realize how off putting these eye rolling illustrations are to JW kids. I remember these tactics back in the 70's. The JW's were always wearing some out of date cloths and sitting at a desk or at a meeting with a suit on while everyone else was outside having fun or in comfortable cloths and just enjoying themselves. They are so institutionalized that they've lost touch with normal day to day life.

Jenga is now an approved parlar game for Christians of all ages and levels of complete boredom.

Jenga has recently been eliminated as an approved game for Christians. It is believed to have originated as a childs game that became popular during the construction of the Tower of Babel, intended to prepare Pagan children for future attempts to reach the heavens.

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This is beautiful

by sooner7nc in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nkdxuce7leq#!

.

exwhyzee

I wonder if it will have the same effect in 50 years of so when they play "Baby Got Back" to a old person from Generaton X ?

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Tattoos? Regrets?

by JimmyPage in

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do you have a tattoo?

how long have you had it?

what is it?

exwhyzee

A Brother in my former Congregation had a naked lady tattoo'd on his arm. When he became a JW he had a Bikini tattoo'd on her.

Also, I accidently treked onto a nude beach once. The one thing I remember is that there were a lot of old hippie types lying about.

One Older Woman had a tattoo on her backside which at one time was probably a butterfly but now it was the size of a Codor.