Imagine how much less fun life would have been if these folks would have never met each other or hadn't been determined enough to make sure their music got heard. Glad they came along and hopefully Mr. Rogers had a good life and a lot of fun being an entertainer.
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Bobby Rogers, founding member of The Miracles passes
by designs inbobby rogers, along with cousin claudette (wife of smokey robinson), pete moore, ronnie white and smokey robinson formed the miracles in 1959 and had their first hits with 'bad girl' and the first motown #1 hit with 'shop around'.
the miracles became world famous for ooo baby baby, tracks of my tears, you've really got a hold on me among many others.. bobby wrote as well as sang and choreographed for the miracles, temptations, mary wells, marvin gaye, and the marvelettes (he was married to marvelettes lead singer wanda young).
going to a go go, ain't that peculiar, the way you do the things you do, my baby, what love has joined together are some of the songs he authored and co-wrote.. every summer in the 60s the motown review would come to los angeles.. here the miracles perform shop around.
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Just Got My Memorial Invite
by Tater-T inso hey everyone i knew i couldn't type out the experince i just had at the door.. the video ain't much better.. but i hope you enjoy.
this just happened... at least i didn't feel guilty after this visit... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivu6c3yc7vu.
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exwhyzee
You mentioned that they said they do charity work, siting the example of Katrina relief efforts.
That may be so, and good for them, but when JW's come to the rescue, they are there to help JW's first and foremost...if anyone else is aided, it is merely a collateral result. You can be sure they wouldn't help a DF'd person who's house was destroyed. Other organizations come to the aid of anyone in need. When JW's help non believers, it is often done with self serving interests in mind such as winning them over to their side or because of their never ending desire to make a good impression on the public regarding JW's and to legitimize their message somehow.
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The results of the 2012 survey are published, and the new 2013 survey is now online!
by cedars infor those of you who are following our annual jw global survey, you will be pleased to know that the results have been published, and are available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2012-jw-survey-results.pdf.
i would urge as many as possible to take part in our new survey, which has been enhanced to implement some of the suggestions we received from those taking part in last year's poll.. anyway, i hope you find the 2012 results helpful and enjoy taking part in our new survey.. by all means share your thoughts on the results on this thread, not to mention any suggestions that will help make the 2014 survey better still!
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Thanks for all your continued work on this Cedars. It's interesting and affirming to see the statistics laid out in black and white so to speak, even if the responders to the survey aren't your typical dyed in the wool JW, the survey results do have merit. I'm glad you send them in to HQ. Who knows what effect that might have on the few individuals who see them?
You'd think the Society would do a survey of its own among it's members if they truly wanted to know how well things are going in JW land. Then again,it's not a democracy they are running. What their members may or may not think about anything is likely of little concern to them. So long as they are convinced they are runniing Gods Organisation, the members will continue to be expected to conform to it, rather than the other way around.
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In Australia, A $3 Billion Jehovahs Witnesses Class Action Over Child Abuse looms Large
by Scott77 inthat's the approximate headline from steve unthank's website at www.jwnews.org.
assuming those numberous victims of sexual abuse prevail in the court and ultimately, get awarded substantial amount of compasation, what do you think will happen to the watchtower we know it today?.
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I get what WMF is saying and didn't think it was a criticism, rather an acknowledgment that the approach of Mr. Unthank does sometimes make one wonder if they should take what he says, with a grain of salt. Many others have thought this as well.
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In Australia, A $3 Billion Jehovahs Witnesses Class Action Over Child Abuse looms Large
by Scott77 inthat's the approximate headline from steve unthank's website at www.jwnews.org.
assuming those numberous victims of sexual abuse prevail in the court and ultimately, get awarded substantial amount of compasation, what do you think will happen to the watchtower we know it today?.
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scott 77.... I' m surprised at myself for not having done that ! Especially since I even pointed them out to Mrs XYZ.
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To those still "in"... how do these scriptures impact you?
by leaving_quietly inmatt 7:13, 14: "go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14?whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.".
matt 24:44: "on this account you too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that you do not think to be it, the son of man is coming.".
2 pet 3:3, 4: "for you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires 4?and saying: where is this promised presence of his?
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Does anyone else have a fear of leaving because of these scriptures? I do. I wish I didn't, but I do.
Despite their claims, there is no proof or any way to prove conclusively that being one of Jehovah's Witnesses puts one in compliance with these scriptures. JW's are "captive" to the notion that they are the only ones who are on the "narrow road" or are prepared enough for "the end". They believe they are being "ridiculed" as it says in 2 Peter, when anyone simply disagrees with them or points out the many incorrect dates they've held out as significant. Or when anyone is able to provide proof of their having made false prophecies or having covered up their own past wrongdoing. Despite the scriptures admonition not to judge others, they have virtually condemned, via their literature and teachings, billions in the world to death simply because they do not buy into the notion that their leaders in New York are being led by God. Anyone who belongs to a religion at some point must have bought into the idea that theirs is the one true one. Otherwise why would they they stick with it? If they have serious doubts, it is often fear of the unknown,superstitious thinking,lack of knowledge or direction and sheer habit or laziness that makes them stick with it their entire lives. This human tendency is how the different religions survive ,sometimes even thinking their longevity or growth is a result of god blessing them. JW's are no different It seems to me, many are in it because they have based their beleifs on fearful one sided information and have been made afraid to look at it from any other angle. For most JW's, it just happens to be the one they somehow got mixed up in and have become afraid of leaving for the same reason....it's how it has survived this long.
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In Australia, A $3 Billion Jehovahs Witnesses Class Action Over Child Abuse looms Large
by Scott77 inthat's the approximate headline from steve unthank's website at www.jwnews.org.
assuming those numberous victims of sexual abuse prevail in the court and ultimately, get awarded substantial amount of compasation, what do you think will happen to the watchtower we know it today?.
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I was in Brisbane a little over a week ago and noticed a lot of anti child molestation posters in the airport and train stations. Seems like they are pretty serious about wanting people to report offenders. Maybe there is a climate of zero tolerance brewing on this subject that will not bode well for the WT Society if there are in fact charges against them.
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A Lesson Fom OUTLAW..
by OUTLAW inso i`m sitting at my desk... finding new ways to laugh at the wbt$ on jwn and... i hear a knock on the door... *knock..knock..knock*...... who could that possibly be?...
i`m in the middle of friggin nowhere!..
it`s 2 young jw girls 12 or 13... with an invitation to the memorial... .
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Hey Outlaw, you should call or write to the local hall and chew someone out for sending these children to your door without a male adult with them. What could they have been thinking ???
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Has Anyone Ever Been DF'd, Moved and Then Just Started Over Again ???
by RubaDub ini know that people jump through all sorts of hoops to get reinstated, typically for family reasons.. if you happened to move to a different area, wouldn't it just be easier to accept some literature, study, get love-bombed, etc.
you could then switch congregations and fade and not have the df status anymore.. am i smoking something ?
i can't believe this has not been done before ?.
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exwhyzee
There was this sister I knew that never seemed to be able to find anyone of her own. There werent any eligible brothers around and even though she was attractive and a nice person,she wound up a single pioneer in her 40's alone. A guy her age showed up at the hall saying he just moved here from Alaska looking for work. He apparently came by bus and had obtained the latest magazines at a bus depot along the way and wanted to study. Long story short, he was welcomed in with open arms, studied, got baptized and engaged to the single vulenerable sister...she was over the moon to have someone at last. The Sisters family saw some inconsistencies in his story and had him investigated. Turns out he was DF'd and married in another State and had a kid. It was all very sad and humiliating for the sister. This happened in the 90's before the Internet was everywhere and people were a little less savvy about these things. it would be harder to pull off nowadays but a few hall changes in a row might do the trick...but why?
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Waikiki literature table
by exwhyzee ini feel bad saying this to all of you poor ol' stay at homes who may be experiencing cold winter weather, but we're in hawaii for a few days before heading to austrailia.
last evening we were doing the stroll along the beach walk and happened upon one of those jw literature tables i had only heard about up until now.
there was a young japanese couple looking at the literature as we passed.
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I feel bad saying this to all of you poor ol' stay at homes who may be experiencing cold winter weather, but we're in Hawaii for a few days before heading to Austrailia. Last evening we were doing the stroll along the beach walk and happened upon one of those JW literature tables I had only heard about up until now. There was a young Japanese couple looking at the literature as we passed. I must say the pretty young lady tending the stand looked so nice and presentable and the literature looked much kinder and gentler than it was when we left the org four years ago. No photos of destruction,atom bombs blowing up the world or people being held at knife point by some drugged crazed mugger. I could see how someone might be lulled into checking out her wares. Maybe we are seeing a new approach that is moving away from the old die hard days of the 1975 end of the world era. My hope, for the sake of my family thats still in,is that one day JWs will be able to be allowed to have a relationship with god without the need for the fear tactics,servitude to an organization or having their personal lives policed so much.
Aloha!