Nothing makes people hunker down and cling on to the familiar, than the woeful winds of change.
exwhyzee
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Another story... possibly final story
by confusedandalone inthis is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
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exwhyzee
It sounds like your brother is afraid your parents will expect him to chip in to help pay thier debts instead of you taking care of them. It makes no difference whether an announcement has been made about you from the platform, whatever it is you allegedly have done or are doing, your money is already dirty, right ? Your Father's con"shun"cience should bother him no matter when he accepts your help. (if any of that is even true)
I love how your brother presumes to know what Jehovah is or isn't doing in regard to your dicipline. You really handled him well....didn't get nasty but definetly let him know how stupid his remarks were.
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Mouthy , you have a pm
by jhine inhello, mouthy , i think , ( hope ) that i have sent you a pm .
not done it before , so please let me know if you get it .. jan .
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exwhyzee
Hey....no fair keeping secrets !
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Would The Witnesses Be Happy To See You Come Back to The Kingdom Hall?
by minimus inwould you get a huge response if you ever went back to the hall?.
would nobody care?
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exwhyzee
I think there'd be those who'd be thinking to themselves " Exwhyzee finally decides to show up at a the meeting....thinks he's gonna' get everlasting life....Hmmmph !
(I think some of them would be even more pissed of if they saw me in the New System (if it ever really happens) It isn't about them being loyal to Jehovah, it's more about me daring to question their beliefs.
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exwhyzee
Come...yes come to the All-You-Can-Eat Last Supper Buffet. A banquet of spiritual food has been lovingly rearranged and then reheated for you under the warm glow of the New Light.
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Did being a JW affect you socially?
by Mahtaw ini feel like i'm awkard in social situations.
i hate going up and talking to people i don't know.
i have trouble making friends.
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exwhyzee
It's only to be expected that JW's are somewhat socially hobbled, especially born in's. As a JW, you are required to select your friends and marriage mate from whatever pool of JW's you happened to be associated with. You already know what everyone around you beleives or thinks about on almost every issue or topic. You know what they will or won't do in any given situation. You know what activities they have during most of the week. You know they don't have any political ideologies or aspirations or major educational goals. They are all taught that in order to be sheeplike and agreeable, they must defer to someone else. Basically you only have to find someone you click with personality wise and the rest takes care of itself in a way. You don't get a chance to develop any strong interpersonal skills for use when getting to know someone who isn't a carbon copy of yourself. On top of that you generally are well practiced at keeping your real thoughts and desires (if you even know what they are) in check and aren't comfortable letting others see them. As a JW, when you are around non JW's in an unavoidable social setting such as work or school, you have to keep a certain part of your life on the down-low much of the time. You can't openly admit, for instance, that most of your life's activities are based on the belief that the everyone around you is going to be destroyed by God soon because they (according to your beliefs) are part of Satan's world, no matter how good they may be.
It's tough to learn all the necessary social skills all at once when you find yourself outside the JW circle, rather than over a lifetime as most people in the world have a chance to do.
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Need Help - Looks like some one in my family got to know that we are fading...
by MissConfused inletter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.
pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.
he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.
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exwhyzee
The Farmer in this childish illustration, was trying to make the wolf puppy something that Jehovah (if he exists) didn't intend for him to be. Jehovah (if he exists) also didn't create sheep to be kept in a pen. Like all the other animals, they were originally free. It was sinful imperfect Man's idea to heard sheep because sheep once they realized how easy to capture and control they were. Once they had them under their control, they could fleece them and slaughter them much more efficiently.
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Please help. I am losing the plot.
by wordyword inafter being a witness for 40 years, i now find myself disfellowshipped.. i have had a number of doubts for a few years now, but still feel as if i'm living my life in the "t minus " to armageddon spector.. my parents are in their 80's and my dear mother is in very bad health.
i was allowed to pop through - about once a month to make sure my parents were ok and for them to see their grandchildren.
this all ended after the july watchtower article and especially since the district convention - with all the "counsel" on associating with disfellowshipped family members.. around 6 weeks ago, my dad asked me point blank why i wasn't trying to get reinstated.
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exwhyzee
WordyWord. This is nothing but black mail. I'm sure Jehovah (if he exists) doesn't want anyone to be blackmailed into serving him. Do you have any Non JW relatives or maybe you know their neighbors well enough to ask them to check in on your parents? If you explain the situation to someone your parents know who are a non-JW's, it might embarrass them a little to have an "outsider" know what they are doing to you. Especially if the "outsider" made arrangements to visit your parents and brought you along as a surprise guest. Most JW's don't like to do their shunning in front of anyone but other JW's...it makes them realize how primative and mean it is when an outsider sees them engaging in this practice, especially to their own children.
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classification of Jehovahs Witness members by when they joined up
by besty injust got to thinking how long can the watchtower peddle the 'soon' story with any credibility?.
i would say there are the oldtimer or born ins in the 70+ age group - they possibly remember the 2nd world war, and maybe joined for 1975 or made life affecting decisions meaning they are so commited with 'nowhere else to go' that they have surrendered to the resurrection hope.. then you have the '1986 international year of peace, the 1914+70 year' generation crowd.
people in their 40s and 50s now.
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exwhyzee
The twenty and thirty somethings we see now, were raised by parents who were taken in by the whole 1975 falshood. They've heard the tales their parents and grandparents have to tell and wonder how they could have been so naive. They may be going through the motions of being JW's but they seem to be covering their bases as far as future plans and there is a noticable bit of skepticism about them. The "normal ones" aren't as strict about shunning, following directions such as "NO FACEBOOK", going to concerts, R movies or having non JW activities or friends. I don't think they feel the fear or have deep guilt about not going in service or missing meetings. I don't think they will be as deeply affected or dissapointed when they hit 40 or 50 and realize things just don't ad up.
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10 Questions for Elders when they start annoying you
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exwhyzee
These are pretty standard questions....and these are the answers you'd likely get.
What hospital kicks the sick ones out the door and keeps the healthy ones?
Hospitals seperate the highly contageous away from the general population on a regular basis and no one questions the logic behind it.
Well, then, how do you explain Fred Franz being made PRESIDENT after the 1975 fiasco?
No need to fire the coach when game isn' t even over....were only in the third quarter.
who is going to be the most clueless jackass in the room in the years to come?
Jehovah isn't impressed by human wisdom and head knowledge. It's mans self directed knowledge and short sightedness that has led this planet to the brink of ruin.
if it is still too dark to see clearly—do you light a new candle and blow out the old one?
You set the old one next to the new one and they work in concert to shed an even greater light.
5. Humility consists of open willingness to admit mistakes and explain your failures with a promise NEVER to do it again.
We have never failed to do Jehovahs will and will continue on this course till the end.
6. A Faithful Servant does not tell guests what they should eat. A Wise Servant would not dare cry, “Dinner is being served” while the guests just sit
and wait and wait--unless he needed to have his crazy ass fired!
The wise and faithful servant has consistently kept the masters belongings nourished until the master delivers the banquet himself and they will continue to do so as directed.
Peter denied Christ 3 separate times out of self-regard in the face of danger. Afterward, Jesus gave him the keys to the Kingdom Tell me again how any disfellowshipped person is WORSE?
There is no record of Peter having been previously diciplined for this same offence. The occasions where he denied Christ happened in a short span of time. He was remorseful over what he had done and evidently never did so again.
8.Willingness to die for a belief seems to be the delight of terrorists and every other radical fanatic. Why do Christians find it heroic too?
The Bible is our guide and it is full of examples of those who gave up their lives to uphold God's laws and prove their loyalty to him.
Okay, you're telling me what "this generation" REALLY MEANS now.....so....um...what the hell was all that other crap YOU SAID IT MEANT?
It's not for us to know when the end of this system is for sure, we can only use the signs we've seen thus far in world history to estimate how close we are to the times fortold in the Bible and if we are among those who will see those days occur. One thing is certain, the end will come for each individual no matter what generation he belongs to. The main thing is to be found doing the Lords work on that day.
My mother suffered the pangs of birth so I could have life. She fed, me, changed my diapers, held me, dried my tears, taught me right from wrong
and was always there for me. What kind of low-life ingrate will it make me IF I turn my back on her now because she won't quit smoking….and
you just DISFELLOWSHIPPED HER!!
For the good of the greater number, Jehovah's dicipline at times has to be harsh. As humans, we are often too small visioned to fully recognize his dicipline as a protection and warning to the association of his people and ultimately as an expression of his love for us until much time has passed and we have gained wisdom.