Posts by exwhyzee

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Married for all eternity ?

by exwhyzee in

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when you were a witness, did you ever think about being married to the same person for all eternity?

did it seem like a reality to you or was it sort of too out there to really comprehend, much like paradise and living forever is or even the concept of god having always existed ?.

i remember a sister in our congregation whose husband was unbelieving and the marriage was really bad.

When you were a Witness, did you ever think about being married to the same person for all eternity? I mean really think it through? If so, what did you think about that? Did it seem like a reality to you or was it sort of too out there to really comprehend, much like paradise and living forever is or even the concept of God having always existed ?

I remember a Sister in our congregation whose husband was unbelieving and the marriage was really bad. She often said that she felt that she should be scripturally free to leave him and remarry since she didn't even know the true God Jehovah when she was married in a church. Since the Witnesses believe that she was married by an institution run by Satan then her marriage should not be considered binding before Jehovah. She didn't want her husband to become a Witness either because that would mean she would end up married to him for all eternity. She even said if he ever did become a Witness, she hoped that one of them would die in the tribulation so as not to have to be married to eachother for all eternity. Apparently she had been thinking this whole matter through in some detail and it was a reality for her. A reality she dreaded.

My wife and I were well matched from the start but I did sometimes wonder if after 3 million years it would still be good. I always figured I'd cross that bridge when I came to it and figure it out with my perfect mind. After 30 years of marriage and two kids, I can't imagine myself being married to someone else nor would I want to be. I question/doub't everything I ever learned from JW's about God and the Bible now and it doesn't really matter to me if there is a paradise or not anymore. I can understand people not wanting to die but still can't fathom living forever or even being married to the same person forever or how either of these could be a good thing.

What are your thoughts?

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A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

by InterestedOne in

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in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

mistakes will happen.

concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

exwhyzee

MISTAKES MADE BY NON WITNESS RELIGIOUS GROUPS = FALSE RELIGION INSPIRED BY SATAN.....DESTRUCTION AT ARMGEDDON.

MISTAKES MADE BY THE GOVERNING BODY= WE WEREN'T READY FOR THE WHOLE TRUTH YET, SO JEHOVAH BROKE IT TO US GENTLY AND HE LOVINGLY HELD ARMEGEDDON OFF FOR GENERATIONS WHILE WE WERE BELIEVING AND TEACHING FALSHOODS, CONDEMNING OTHER PEOPLES BELIEFS, SPREADING OUR MISTAKES AROUND THE GLOBE WITH OUR LITERATURE MAKING FOOLS OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO SPENT MILLIONS OF HOURS LEARNING OUR MISTAKES AND DISTRIBUTING THEM DEFENDING THEM AND EVEN DYING BECAUSE OF THEM.... OOOPS !

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My Wedding Photos are. . .

by leavingwt in

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chock full of jehovah's witnesses.

with the exception of my wife and my best man, they're all jws.

jws who probably despise me.

exwhyzee

Our Wedding was at the KH.

Emblazoned over our heads in what would have otherwise been a nice photo taken during the cerimony, is the year text Isaiah 6:8 "Here I am send me send me, send me".

Not very attractive but come to think of it, I guess we could have them photoshopped out.

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what, exactly, did we witness?

by stillin in

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i mean, in a passive sense of the word, to witness means that we saw something or heard something.

in an active sense, we share our experience with somebody who wasn't there.. ok, "witnessing for god's kingdom" means that we somehow know something about it that needs to be shared with others.

we saw something and now we are testifying about it; but i don't seem to be able to recall what it was that i saw.

exwhyzee

Your question did remind me of the time when my Aunt in Wales was turning into her driveway when another car hit her from behind. Several people came forward and said they had seen the accident and would be happy to come to her aid as witnesses if needed. The next day her husband was out mowing the lawn when two people stopped by the house. My Aunt answered the door and over the sound of the lawn mower, heard them say something about being witnesses. She directed them to her husband who was handling the accident claim with their insurance co. Later, when she heard the lawn mower start up again, she looked out the window only to see the two visitors trotting back and forth across the yard holding out some kind of magazines to her husband as he mowed and tried to ignore them. Later when he came into the house, he told her it had been Jehovah's Witnesses...not witnesses to her car accident.

Anyway, I think they use the term Witness in this case because anyone giving testimony is expected to tell The Truth.

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First Attempt with my mom

by jworld in

this was to much, i had to write my mom in an attempt to see if she would think outside of the box.

i have brought this subject up with them before regarding how the truth really isn't being preached in the entire earth and what that means for all those people.. this is what i sent:.

iran's supreme court says an evangelical pastor charged with apostasy can be executed if he does not recant his faith, according to a copy of the verdict obtained by a religious rights activist group.

exwhyzee

Well, there are accounts in the Bible of people who were in nations that didn't worship Jehovah (Rahab, for one)

I'm suprised Ol' Mom didn't bring up the account of Shadrack Meshack and Abednego who were thrown into the firey furnace rather than bow down to Baal...always an old standby, not that it would apply in this case since the Evangelical Pastor will die in vain seeing as how God only accepts sacrafices made by Jehovah's Witnesses.

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Bad day in Athiest/Jehovah's-Witnessville

by Nickolas in

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bear with me for a day or two, ok?

if i don't vent a bit i'll leave gray matter spontaneously spattered all over my office walls..

exwhyzee

The girlfriend was likely more put off by the hold the JW Mother has over her boyfriend rather than the JW Mother herself.

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What's Your Most Valuable Piece Of Jewelry That You Own?

by minimus in

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i have a presidential rolex with a diamond bezel that's a beauty and a couple of rings and that's all i ever wear.

i never liked chains or bracelets on me.. what's your best piece of jewelry?

?.

exwhyzee

When I was a teenager I went rummaging around the ruins of my Great Grandmothers thatched cottage on a very remote island in the West of Ireland which was last occupied during the potato fammine in 1845. The surviving family built a large Georgan style house on the same property which was where my Mother was born and raised. Anyway, I found an antique pewter lantern and also a silver broach that was made in a old Celtic dedign which had "St Vincent's Hospital 1827 " beautifully worked into the design. Apparently one of my great grandmothers sisters had been a nurse there. They let me keep both of these items and I still have them. I got detained in London on the way home because not thinking....I had put them in my carry on luggage and when they X-rayed my bag and saw a cylinder shaped metal object( the lantern) they called out the brigade.

Anyway, this thread has made me remember that I've always meant to contact St Vincents Hospital (if it still exists) and see what they know about this broach. It could turn out to be the most valuable piece of jewlry I own.

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My wife and I are lonely....I know too bad....

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

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exwhyzee

I think many can relate to this thread. My wife and I sure can. It seems that anyone who spent their growing up years or young adult years in the organization are the worst off in terms of not having a network of friends or family in place to ease their transition out of the organization or the skills needed obatain such relationships. Spoiled you might say we were, as there wasn't any real skill involved in obtaining friends before. The playing field was pretty much level, you automatically knew what everyone was about basically. All you needed was to "click" with a few of the different ones in each of the halls you were aquainted with and your dance card was full. Some called this unity but really it was just a fortunate side benifit that occured, much like it does in school or at summer camp or where people gather regularly for whatever reason for a long period of time. It's natural that after being part of a crowd of 200 or so, you would find a few that hit it off and became friends. I think the reason so many who do leave but eventually return, is not because of a love of any TRUTH, or is it God's holy spirit drawing them back, rather they crave the familiar and what comes easy and that old feeling of belonging somewhere.

When I feel this way, I realize that going back would mean that just like before, I'd have to sit through hours and hours, years and years of listening to the same information over and over and be expected to use certain terms and keep my own honest comments and real thoughts in check at all times. It would be exausting now to have to go back to that, just to be able to chat with a few friends after the meeting. I know if I invested the same amount of time and effort that I once spent at meetings, instead seeking out new friends, I'd find them. It would be a lot of work, but I'd also be free to be myself without having to attend conventions and go from door to door for the rest of my life. The problem for me is that as a Witness, everything we were, was provided for us. The meeting topics, the songs, all of our deepest beliefs and attitudes towards things were programmed into us. We had no political opinions, didn't read or discuss anything controversial, we just assumed who we were from someone else in a way. Now we're out there on our own and having to rethink everything and learn how to find things in common with others when it isn't always obvious. I spent so much time basically saying NO to life that I am lacking in many of the skills common to someone my age. It's a strange thing to meet someone new and not have a real life story you can tell them...one they could relate to in any way. Most of the time when you meet someone, they introduce you to their circle of friends. It's a very odd thing not to have anyone at all in your life...no history with anyone. This in itself should be proof enough that one was in a closed society or even a cult. Going back would be just more of the same.

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When do you think the org reached peak numbers?

by Mickey mouse in

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i'm talking real numbers here, not the stuff they publish which is skewed by allowing people to count 15 minutes/both parents counting study time with children.

when did they reach their peak publishers?.

my guess would be the early 2000's.

exwhyzee

Re: When do you think the org reached peak numbers?

The day before the Internet went live.

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Why I didnt left JW an dont plan to do so

by Lazarus in

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in another thread i wrote: i didn't left the jw's and don't plan to do so.

exwhyzee

In your case I think it is right that you didn't left.

good one !