Posts by exwhyzee

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Latest AWAKE claims most College students consider Prostitution/Stripping to pay for education!!! What the?

by Witness 007 in

"watching the world" in awake has always been used as a tool to promote certain doctrines like blood, the u.n etc.

in the new "step-parents" awake magazine, it has an article claiming how 1 in 3 college students would consider stripping or sex work to pay for it!!!

anti college propaganda????

exwhyzee

I don't doubt that it is true that students resort to such tactics to pay for thier education. It's just that they always dredge up every rotten thing they can to show that higher education is a bad scary thing. They want JW's to get their education reading their magazines and will use every tactic they can to scare them off from advancing beyond that.

When I was in Bethel, I worked in the hot sweaty bindery with a guy that became a JW just after he got out of College. He got chosen to work in the Law Offices because of his previous education while the rest of us who followed their advice and went to Bethel instead of College were overlooked. He was then sent to Law School.

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Latest AWAKE claims most College students consider Prostitution/Stripping to pay for education!!! What the?

by Witness 007 in

"watching the world" in awake has always been used as a tool to promote certain doctrines like blood, the u.n etc.

in the new "step-parents" awake magazine, it has an article claiming how 1 in 3 college students would consider stripping or sex work to pay for it!!!

anti college propaganda????

exwhyzee

It's called. "only print information that confirms our foregone conclusions."

A study showing that 1 in 3 college students reads the bible daily would never even be mentioned in the Awake.

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1914 Commemorative T-shirts Available Now!!!

by 00DAD in

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jwn member cedars is fast approaching his 1,914th post.

as of this posting, he is on his 1,909th post!!!

in honor and recognition of this momentous event, we are very excited to be offering to all jwn members your very own 1914 commemorative t-shirt!.

exwhyzee

Does it come in Assembly Hall Mauve ?

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Need some good parenting advice...

by diana netherton in

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i have a son who will be 20 in may.

he's, by all accounts, what you would consider the.

"perfect child.

exwhyzee

It seems like a lot of the things we do for our kids as far as helping them once they are older, is done to ease our own discomfort or even guilt while seeing them make their way in the world.

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Need some good parenting advice...

by diana netherton in

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i have a son who will be 20 in may.

he's, by all accounts, what you would consider the.

"perfect child.

exwhyzee

You're not a bad Mom....it's a huge experiment raising kids. It gets harder as they get older when their decisions are more important and you have less say over what they do yet bear much of the brunt of what they experience (at least thats what if feels like).

I think it might be important not to put too much "life or death" into the decisions they make when they reach a crossroads in their life. Too much drama makes them afraid to make a mistake. He's got from now until he's 65 to figure out what he wants to do. Sometimes the most interesting adults around are the ones who don't know what they want to do when they grow up. Let him know it's ok to try and maybe fail. Let him know that whatever route he chooses he will adjust as needed. A plane going from California to New York is off course most of the time so the Pilot has to make constant adjustments along the way. It's not a straight course between point A and B. It's that way in life. Encourage him to take smart risks and to have a plan B in mind. Then let him know he has a soft place to land should he need it. What more can anyone expect you as a Mother to do?

Hang in there Ma....it will work out fine.

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Need some good parenting advice...

by diana netherton in

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friends

i have a son who will be 20 in may.

he's, by all accounts, what you would consider the.

"perfect child.

exwhyzee

I know how tempting it is to smooth the way for our kids but my first thought is "why did you book the ticket rather than let him do it and why are you calling his boss". I do know the answer to those questions. I have two sons and their Mom used to do this. She'd balance their checkbooks, remind themof appointments etc. I told her that she needs to not deprive them of the life lessons they can learn by making mistakes or having things go awry and then learn how figure out how to make things work for themselves. Sometimes necessity is a motivator. If they are too fat and happy , so to speak, they won't feel any urge to get on the ball, move forward and progress.

This is easier said than done....very difficult to sit back and hope they work things out. It's best to offer advice and hope for the best rather than get in ther and manipulate.

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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

by stuckinamovement in

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i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

exwhyzee

Lifes too short. What a miserable situation you describe. Haven't we all seen Elders wives and kids with looks on their faces that reflect they are going through someting similar or worse. I remember how they would have to linger after the late night meetings looking longingly at the closed door where the Elder was in some meeting or other. All they wanted to do is go home at a decent hour for once.

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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.

by stuckinamovement in

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i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.

in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.

even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.

exwhyzee

There may be several reasons why an elders wife remains after he leaves. Three that I can think of are....

1. He has seen first hand,over an extended period of time, the inside dealings of the organization. Heard the problems, seen the personality clashes, dealt with the power struggles and egos. Most or all of it, until now, he has had to keep silent about. It would be difficult to convey to her all the subleties and nuances of the conversations and the dealings he has been part of over the years and expect it to have the same impact on her.

2. She has enjoyed the status of being an Elders wife and because of this has had a good share of attention and has been able to make friends and be a bit more popular than the "plain" JW. It might be hard for her to just leave because her husband is burned out. Maybe he'll come back, she hopes. In the meantime she may get to enjoy playing the part of the long suffering Martyr.

3. When you look around the KHall in general, there seems to be a larger proportion of Women with unbelieving mates than there are Men with unbelieving mates anyway. That tendancy already exists. I think Women are more inclined to want to be part of a community and may allow untolerable circumstances to continue because of that desire, than men are. (I'm generalizing here) Women gather together and commiserate with one another ...Men tend to be loners and want to handle things themselves.

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Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?

by jwfacts in

more important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.

my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.

now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?

exwhyzee

Besty - 400000 visits and 100 bible study requests daily = 0.025% conversion

Just because there are 100 requests for Bible studies per day doesn't mean that many are actually started. Of the ones that are started only a small amount are likely to follow through to baptizim.

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Will Embracing the Internet lead to Increased Growth for the Watchtower?

by jwfacts in

more important than the reduction in the size of the new magazine is that the watchtower will be actively promoting its website and encouraging people use it to download magazines.

my concern is that this has the potential to lead to an increase in growth for the watchtower.. the door-to-door preaching work has been one of the most inefficient means imaginable to gain converts, and done little more than tie up the time of active jws.

now, by directing people to the internet, witnesses can spread their message at an alarming rate for little cost.. do you feel that this has the potential to lead to a surge in growth of jehovah's witnesses?

exwhyzee

The one thing the Internet won't be able to do is draw people in, out of a sense of guilt or obligation like the door to door work does. A lot of people who were found in the door to door work didn't really buy into what they were hearing at first but were drawn in by a sense of obligation to those nice well meaning people who kept coming back and who they just couldn't say no to. They were drawn in little by little over time and the doctrines were broken to them gently. On the Internet, an interested person will be able to take the information at face value and will be able to look ahead to see what he is getting into before his sensibilities are clouded by a friendly relationship that has been carefully cultivated by a JW studying with him. While he is online, he can click around and do a little investigating of his own before he swallows the program hook line and sinker. If there is a group to join or a program to buy into out there, there will always be someone who will buy into it no matter how ridiculous it may be. It's a numbers game...the more contacts that are made, the higher the chances of finding that someone who will buy into it. The difference is, anyone becoming a JW in the future will not be able to say, as we can, that he didn't have a chance to really know what he was getting into or was kept in the dark about the organization he had joined until he had spent a good part of his life in it.