sunday's study article makes a very damning statement!!!
paragraph 15 ; .........resting our hope on our savings, investments, or ability to earn money in this system amounts to resting our hope on .......... satan.
(watchtower january 15th 2013).
"So why doesnt the WTS sell everything and buy tv ads to spread the message and save everyone if Armageddon is tomorrow.?"
With a few well placed Ads, TV specials or Satellite Broadcasts, instead of plodding from door to door, the good news would be preached throughout the inhabited earth in a short time and then the end WOULD finally come. But that's not what printing companies do.
for example, they pride themselves in what they don't believe such as immortal souls, the trinity, hellfire, etc.. some exjws still believe it is the "truth" and support the basics.. .
I still believe that it's ok with God for blood to be removed from someone else's body, spun down and separated into fractions and used for medical purposes so long as A:) a non-JW donates the blood B:) a non-JW separates the components and administers them.
so i got some great advice to take things very slowly with the husband and kids in order to be able to fade and still maintain contact with my parents and siblings.
but today i got a call from my son's teacher that he was having a meltdown because he was worried about all his friends and teachers being destroyed at armageddon.... first i felt like such a schmuck for ever having allowed that thought to enter my son's head, then i thought, is it psychological torture for me not to immediately correct the situation?
i had a long talk with him about how god is perfectly just and full of love and he didn't have to worry about that at all, but it still seemed lukewarm.
As a kid I had terrible Armegeddon nightmares about my non JW Dad being killed by God for not being a Witness or myself having to sacrifice my little sisters to the bad guys instead of giving into their torture to save them or myself. Looking back I realize that in between meetings my anxiety calmed somewhat only to be refueled again at the next one. As a middle aged adult the resulting lifelong difficulty I suffered with anxiety became almost unbearable at the end of my JW career. Meetings and any kind of talk about the last days would trigger heart palpitations and stomach flip flops which could only be alleviated by stealing out to my car where I began stashing a small container of beer or wine to quell the symptoms. This was a drastic move for me as a virtual non drinker, and a clue that something had to be done. Upon my subsequent self directed exit from the Org. My anxiety disappeared overnight and has not returned in almost 5 years. It has been such a relief and well worth the loss of every friend I ever knew.
If you can convince your family that for the sake of your son you need to take a little break from anything having to do with death and destruction or talk of the end of the world until he comes to grips with the obvious trauma he has suffered from exposure to all this dooms day talk, it might be the queue you need to make a long term exit. It is completely understandable how a ny kid who is truly listening at the meetings could be frightened by what he is hearing over and over from the adults in his little world.
so my husband (who was never a jw) saw a christian bumper sticker today and asked me if the witnesses have any.
i said no (not that i know of anyway) so here are a few he came up with.. 'honk if you're a zombie'.
'my other car is noah's ark'.
I'm a Regular Pioneer and my other car is a Covered Wagon.
I you.....conditionally !
Outta' my way, I'm late for the Special Assembly !
Don't blame me....I don't even vote !
Donate Blood....I may need your fractions !
Jesus Loves you but I think your doomed !
If you're not an apostate....you're not paying more than the usual attention.
so i have a question that's been bothering me for years.
i know this is extreme but i think you'll see where i'm going with this.
so ex-jw's are evil we're on "satan's side" as my dad told me and we aren't worth a hello.
This shunning business has very little to do with them being loyal to God or being concerned about upholding his principals.. It has more to do with you you having dared to offend their own sensibilities and them having the opportunity to exercise over you what little bit of personal power they have left.
These folks will turn their backs on a lifelong friend,even a youngster who has transgressed then turn around and welcome with open arms into the congregation, someone who they know little or nothing about and have no idea what evil they may have been up to.
i know its a year away but i wanted to inquire about the hundred year anniversary of 1914. it would be amazing to have a world wide event reguarding all exjws.
i am nowhere near capable of putting this together but i'd like to propose the largest assembly of exjws ever on october 1st 2014. can it be done?
am i the first to bring this up?
bobby rogers, along with cousin claudette (wife of smokey robinson), pete moore, ronnie white and smokey robinson formed the miracles in 1959 and had their first hits with 'bad girl' and the first motown #1 hit with 'shop around'.
the miracles became world famous for ooo baby baby, tracks of my tears, you've really got a hold on me among many others.. bobby wrote as well as sang and choreographed for the miracles, temptations, mary wells, marvin gaye, and the marvelettes (he was married to marvelettes lead singer wanda young).
going to a go go, ain't that peculiar, the way you do the things you do, my baby, what love has joined together are some of the songs he authored and co-wrote.. every summer in the 60s the motown review would come to los angeles.. here the miracles perform shop around.
Imagine how much less fun life would have been if these folks would have never met each other or hadn't been determined enough to make sure their music got heard. Glad they came along and hopefully Mr. Rogers had a good life and a lot of fun being an entertainer.
so hey everyone i knew i couldn't type out the experince i just had at the door.. the video ain't much better.. but i hope you enjoy.
this just happened... at least i didn't feel guilty after this visit... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivu6c3yc7vu.
You mentioned that they said they do charity work, siting the example of Katrina relief efforts.
That may be so, and good for them, but when JW's come to the rescue, they are there to help JW's first and foremost...if anyone else is aided, it is merely a collateral result. You can be sure they wouldn't help a DF'd person who's house was destroyed. Other organizations come to the aid of anyone in need. When JW's help non believers, it is often done with self serving interests in mind such as winning them over to their side or because of their never ending desire to make a good impression on the public regarding JW's and to legitimize their message somehow.
for those of you who are following our annual jw global survey, you will be pleased to know that the results have been published, and are available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/2012-jw-survey-results.pdf.
i would urge as many as possible to take part in our new survey, which has been enhanced to implement some of the suggestions we received from those taking part in last year's poll.. anyway, i hope you find the 2012 results helpful and enjoy taking part in our new survey.. by all means share your thoughts on the results on this thread, not to mention any suggestions that will help make the 2014 survey better still!
cedars.
Thanks for all your continued work on this Cedars. It's interesting and affirming to see the statistics laid out in black and white so to speak, even if the responders to the survey aren't your typical dyed in the wool JW, the survey results do have merit. I'm glad you send them in to HQ. Who knows what effect that might have on the few individuals who see them?
You'd think the Society would do a survey of its own among it's members if they truly wanted to know how well things are going in JW land. Then again,it's not a democracy they are running. What their members may or may not think about anything is likely of little concern to them. So long as they are convinced they are runniing Gods Organisation, the members will continue to be expected to conform to it, rather than the other way around.
that's the approximate headline from steve unthank's website at www.jwnews.org.
assuming those numberous victims of sexual abuse prevail in the court and ultimately, get awarded substantial amount of compasation, what do you think will happen to the watchtower we know it today?.
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I get what WMF is saying and didn't think it was a criticism, rather an acknowledgment that the approach of Mr. Unthank does sometimes make one wonder if they should take what he says, with a grain of salt. Many others have thought this as well.
