can someone here tell me what the current policy is in jw conventions in terms of inviting the public.
is the public invited only for the special talk on sunday or can they come in at any time?
if a memeber of the public does come into the assembly hall, are they escorted or kept under surveillance the entire time or just a short while?
target
I attended the Madison, Wi assemblies. One year there were several people running down the aisles with signs and yelling something. They were quickly removed and when I asked what it was about I was told that they were apostates trying to ruin the assembly. It was the best part of the assembly. That didn't ruin it for me.
i have been trying to figure out the title and singer of song i heard on the radio a few years ago.
all i remember about the lyrics is that a guy is in a record store and runs into an old girlfriend they go into a cafe and talk about all kinds of things (it's snowing outside) when they finally go their seperate ways the snow turns into rain.
does this sound familiar to anyone it has driven me nuts.
Now it is bugging me that I can't remember and I can't find the song. I am sure someone will come up with it soon.
i have been trying to figure out the title and singer of song i heard on the radio a few years ago.
all i remember about the lyrics is that a guy is in a record store and runs into an old girlfriend they go into a cafe and talk about all kinds of things (it's snowing outside) when they finally go their seperate ways the snow turns into rain.
does this sound familiar to anyone it has driven me nuts.
Wasn't it the grocery store and they bought a six pack and drank it in his car? Cause they couldn't find a place that was open?
i would without question let mankind know who i am.. i would bless all those who worship me and give them their every needs.. i would also remove the curse of death and go ahead and remove the devil.
really why should i have to kill billions just to prove i am god.. live let live and remove all the written laws.
place the law of love as the only law.. there would be no sin because i made rlues to be broke therefore i would remove these rules.. it wasn't until i told adam ,son this is my apple don't eat it.. i on the other hand would have said, adam this is my apple tree i love you eat and show eve my tree and let all things be shared between you and me.. it is hard for me to beleive a god would place restrictions on his creations then kill them for for such a phoney reason.
Skipper.
"It was sad to see my dreams crumble, my invisible buddy turns out to be nothing but a fantasy."
I understand your words oh so well for two months now. My invisible buddy has disappeared into a puff of smoke. There's no Santa, no Easter Bunny, no Tooth Fairey, and no God. I am still struggling with the no god part cause I break out in prayer from time to time. It became such a habit and it is taking awhile to break.
The stories of "If I was god" is just how I have been thinking. I just talked with my youngest son a few days ago about the same thing. I wouldn't have given birth to him and then abandoned him. Leaving unclear ideas of who and where I am and that one day I would come back and kill him if he didn't follow the rules that were open to interpretation just as this past has pointed out.
It all seems so clear now how wrong this is and sad that none of it was true. Some turn to a different religion after the WT to bring back that childish fantasty of a god. Just like people anxiously await Xmas hoping that they can bring back the fantasy of Santa. It was all pretend and it didn't feel very good when we found out that we were lied to now did it?
I am going through a mourning for what is lost.
wait on jehovah, is an interesting terminology.
it is used basically to stop an action from taking place.
the inference would be that you should leave it in gods hands and in his due time he will maneuver things to address the matter.
Thanks for the answer Gopher.
JBB
wait on jehovah, is an interesting terminology.
it is used basically to stop an action from taking place.
the inference would be that you should leave it in gods hands and in his due time he will maneuver things to address the matter.
Hi Simon.
Do you have the name of the person in the bible who ran a tent peg through someone's head?
JBB
the thread on judicial committes reminded me of my last meeting.
as a jw elder.
a major rift had developed on the body of elders.
I was told by my father and my husband that women were good for only three things. l. sex 2. having babies 3. taking care of a man.
Gees! No wonder the JW religion appealed to me. It was so familiar.
JBB
a friend just called me and told me to check out chicagotribune.com.
below is the article to which he pointed me.
warning: it's very disturbing.. .
Morgaine
Your question of how do we account for evil in the world? My definition is quite different then it would have been three months ago when I still believed in a god and the bible. Satan? Is there such a being? Evil spirits I think are just a figment of ones imagination just like religion is. I don't know if a god exists but if he does, this kind of stuff is unforgiveable. Jesus (who was supposed to be perfect) spent 3 hours hanging on a cross. What kind of time did this 12 year old spend being tortured? Every day was a living hell (she wasn't perfect now was she) So why was she supposed to put up with more than 3 hours of torture? Makes no sense to me. It says in the bible somewhere that god will not give you more then you can bear. I believe this example shows that that is not so.
Evil is here because people are just evil. Are the animals evil? I know some are more vicious then others but they are killing to eat and stay alive. Have to kill, they have to die, I have to eat to stay alive. Ah, but the wasp stuns the moth and plants its eggs and the pupa proceeds to eat the moth a bit at a time and the heart last so that the poor moth stays alive and suffers. I believe that this is what Darwin discovered and concluded that there could be no God and allow this kind of suffering. So some of us are moths and some are wasps. Wasp Tower Society comes to mind.
Look at how many crimes are committed in the name of religion. Parents beat their children because the bible tells them so. (Yes Jesus love me, yes Jesus loves me, yes Jesus loves me. The Bible tells me so.) BS to the max. The cycle of abuse continues - The parents were beaten as children to be holier before God and the parents had a responsibility to beat their children or they would be held responsible if the children strayed. Then they had children, and so on and so on. The cycle of abuse continues and gets more severe as angrier people (generations of abuse = acceptable means of dealing with children)
Religion is evil. It excuses all in the name of god. "We beat her to death because God said to not spare the rod." Evil F***ing people!
Sure there are those that are evil and have no connection to a god. It just makes it that more ugly that it is done in the name of religion.
People prey on the weak. Power. Is it all about power? Nothing corrupts like power and power corrupts absolutely (can't remember the exact quote). When you have the power, you can do anything you want to anyone and no one can stop you. Something must go haywire in the brain. Drugs, religion (remember Religion is the Opium of the people?) Look at the people who drink too much alcohol, are they nice and sweet, and kind and compassionate? NO! They are drugged and feel that they can do anything they want to another person. I think that people who abuse their power are really weak. Like that 12 year old's parents - cowards. F***ing lousy cowards. A 350 pound man beating that little girl with heavy tubing. He needs to have (and his wife too) someone beat them every day to the point of death and then let them heal and then have it done again and again 12 times less one times 3. Of course, the person doing the beating would become evil too.
So what is the answer in your mind Morgaine?
JBB
how many of you still believe in god after your experience of the watchtower?
do you believe in a different god than the one of the org.
one who won't destroy somebody just because he wasn't in the good religion.
I believed there was a God even before I became a JW. The search for God became important at age 9 to the point of attending church on my own - my family rarely attended. I looked into the religions of my friends, went to their churches and synogogs. Looking for god, trying to find him and then imagining that he was there but I just hadn't found the "True Religion" to reveal him to me.
Got married and found out that his mother was a JW when we stopped to see her on our way back from the honeymoon. I asked my husband what was wrong with his mother she was so nasty and talking about things that were so far out - the end is coming, don't have children, god is going to kill almost everyone and leave only the JW's. I thought, "what the heck does that mean, what kind of religion is that?"
Started studying with the Witnesses and I thought, "This is it. This must be the True Religion" Their black and white thinking fit in perfectly with the way I was raised. I didn't like holidays because of family insanity at those times so that fit right in too. Ah, this must be it.
Now after all these years, not agreeing with alot of the teachings but thinking that somehow it would become clear in time. Ha! The blood issue, the UN, the abuse. How could I have been so blind, so taken advantage of, so easily led?
Haven't been back to the hall in three months. Tried to make sense out of God once more and can't do it anymore. Blinders off, light shines in, brain in gear and------- I don't believe anymore. The WTS took that away this summer. I feels quite strange to no longer pray when I prayed throughout the day. No longer asking that god take care of my children and keep them safe. It just isn't there and I think if there was a god, he made a hasty retreat long ago. Abandoned his creation because it didn't turn out as expected.
"Religion is the opium of the people" Karl Marx
JBB
a reply i made on another thread prompted me to post this.
i was going to do so on the other thread but that was really not the topic and i didn't want to corrupt it by flying off on another tangent.. i have no problems with disfellowshipping from an organization such as jehovah's witnesses.
i don't think a person should be allowed to remain within an organization while practicing things that are condemned by that org., things which they, themselves profess not to believe in.. my objection is to the shunning.
The dfing has to stay in place to control the masses and to keep them from leaving the org. It keeps them so scared of losing their eternal life that they put up with anything that is thrown at them. Think of it. What is there was no dfing? So many would leave because the threat of losing out on life would not be in place. Then what would the GB do about the dwindling masses? The dfing keeps them in power over the r and f. Overload them with field service, meetings, and studying so that they cannot think or respond and throw in the dfing and you have total control of people and their lives. Religion is the Opium of the People - Karl Marx.
