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  jwtalk...wow. just...wow.

  by HeyThere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was lurking on jwtalk after trying to read the thread on there about the broadcast about the conti case...and holy moly there are some bat ish crazy talk on that site!

  they also blocked the thread about the broadcast, lol!

  they are scuuuuured (scared).

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  There's another topic there in a members-only folder titled "sad abuse news". Is that on the same topic? More of the same there?

  That is a thread from 2014 talking about the Jose Lopez case...another $13.5 million judgement:
  

  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135M-Awarded-to-Bible-Teacher-Gonzalo-Campos-Alleged-Abuse-Victim-Jose-Lopez-281031832.html?partner=xfinity1

  The responses are an expected combination of sympathy for the victim, accusations that Satan/apostates are out to smear Jehovah's and the organization's name, questions as to whether the WTS's policies are adequate, and blatant "blind faith" defenses of any-and-all things WTS.
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  jwtalk...wow. just...wow.

  by HeyThere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was lurking on jwtalk after trying to read the thread on there about the broadcast about the conti case...and holy moly there are some bat ish crazy talk on that site!

  they also blocked the thread about the broadcast, lol!

  they are scuuuuured (scared).

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  How many of you are members on jwtalk?
  

  BTW,
  If anyone can post specific comments on JWtalk, please do so. It needs to be exposed, it's a piece of the puzzle.
  DD

  I'm a member who reviews it for laughs on a regular basis. After they moved they thread to the Members Only area, I posted the first two pages of posts here, but Simon pulled it down, with the reason that the intent of this site isn't to ridicule members of another. It's his site, so I respect his decision.

  I've actually posted on this particular jwtalk thread a number of times...heehee... (sprinkling an adequate amount of Kool Aid on it to avoid the moderators' wrath), however that thread has gone completely bananas with members really going after each other, apostates (obviously), Conti, and even the WTS policies. I can't believe the moderators haven't locked that thread up yet.
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  ABC's report on child abuse

  by Joyzabel in

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  nice job!

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  Simon14 hours agoPlease do not attempt to harass members of other communities by copying and pasting their content here.

  
  

  Sorry, didn't intend on posting it to facilitate harassment. By posting the jwtalk thread, my only intent was to provide the viewers of this forum access to a thread which their website had previously had in a publicly-viewable part of the forum, but had then moved to a member-only section.

  
  

  Apologies if I offended or was out of line.
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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  If the carts are found to really not be that effective in the end, why on earth would they stop.

  Heck, if effectiveness was the measuring stick, they would have stopped door-to-door 20 years ago.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php

  Hours Preaching per Conversion

  In 1969 there was one baptism for every 1,983 hours of preaching. During the 1980s it had risen to 3,000 hours. From 1990 to 2011 the number of hours preaching required per baptism increased from 3000 to 6000, an increase of 100%.

  

  More significant is the number of hours required for an additional publisher. Due to the large increase in Witnesses leaving the religion, the number of hours preaching required for an additional publisher doubled from 4,000 in the early 1990's to over 8,000 in 2000. The difference between 4000 hours in 1995 and 12,000 in 2014 is a change of 300% in just 20 years.
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  jw.org cart days numbered?

  by jookbeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?

  i bet its very minimal.

  naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.

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  @insidetheKH. Thanks for your posts, I always appreciate content from all perspectives.

  There are so many extremes out there (and here), so your perspective fills in a vital blank and helps find the median in complex issues.
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  JW NFL Player Retires

  by Barrold Bonds in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is news to me, despite somewhat following the steelers.. http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/03/11/steelers-free-agent-jason-worilds-announces-his-departure-from-football/stories/201503110155.

  with all the surprises that were delivered around the nfl tuesday, jason worilds has pulled another.

  the steelers free agent linebacker announced early this morning that he was leaving football.. and the steelers believe he means it.. steelers sources told the post-gazette today that they believe worilds, who became an unrestricted free agent on tuesday, is serious about walking away from football at the age of 27 to work for his religion, jehovahs witnesses, and that there is no hidden agenda involved in his decision.. i appreciate all of the interest from the organizations that have reached out to us the past few days, worilds wrote on twitter.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses- Scientology for famous black people. (Especially musicians and athletes.)

  Isn't that weird? Seriously almost all semi-famous people that are JWs or connected to JWs are black or non-white.

  Michael Jackson and family

  Williams sisters

  Prince

  Naomi Campbell

  Nelson Mandela's ex-wife

  Sherri Shepherd

  Donald Glover

  Michelle Rodriguez

  Notorious BIG

  Ja Rule

  George Benson

  Wayan brothers

  Larry Graham
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  New WT property for A/V production

  by respectful_observer in

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  2. beliefs

  so the wts just bought yet another corporate building in upstate ny.

  this time it's a building to house a/v production a few minutes from patterson.

  why they just don't build what they need on property they already own, i don't know.. http://www.loopnet.com/listing/17829130/39-mt-ebo-road-south-brewster-ny/.

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  So the WTS just bought yet another corporate building in upstate NY. This time it's a building to house A/V production a few minutes from Patterson. Why they just don't build what they need on property they already own, I don't know.

  http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17829130/39-Mt-Ebo-Road-South-Brewster-NY/
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  Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

  by BU2B in

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  i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

  i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

  if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

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  I've been reflecting on the spiritual inheritance I have recieved from grandma. I appreciate her love and effort to help her 7 children to learn about Jehovah and how to serve him.
  Your father and I have been able to pass that inheritance on to you.

  I guess she was paying attention at the WT Study two weeks ago!

  LOL...putting scriptures in handwritten letters. Are you sure you and I aren't siblings? My mom does the exact same thing, and as far as she knows I'm a good J-dub!

  I've come to just laugh it off inside. I know she'll never change. This is who she is and she's happy with herself, so I'm not going to criticize her for it. If she wants to live in constant stress under the fear that all her kids will "fall out of the Truth", that's her choice. She's an adult. I just love her for who she is.
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  Simon Cowell gets a new JW New World Translation Bible

  by dozy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  could he be the next "celebrity" jw?

  :-) .

  https://www.facebook.com/jwmediawatch/timeline.

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  It's so funny that JW avoid being considered "part of the world", but the moment someone famous walks into a KH, assembly, accepts literature, or becomes a JW, the witnesses fall all over themselves to be seen with them, take their picture, post it all over Facebook, etc.
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  Memorial Question?

  by naazira in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over the years, i've come to notice that some of the friends will not touch the plate with the bread or the cup of wine ,when the emblems are being passed around.

  i remember a row of 3 people told the brother to skip over them.

  every year i have noticed this behavior.

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  Like, somehow, the fact that the servers have touched the plate or cup a couple dozen times while "serving" somehow "doesn't really count". They have to be seated and someone has to hand the plate/cup to them.

  I'm pretty sure they're also supposed to wash up to their elbows beforehand. At least that's what the Pharisees tell me...