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  Any ever use a different version of the NWT in the KH

  by Clambake in

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  2. experiences

  i brought a niv to the hall the other day.

  man, i sure got some attention for it.

  someone actually offered to get me a bible.

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  respectful_observer

  I brought the purple Greek Interlinear Bible printed by the WTS to meetings for a while a few years back. Definitely got a few funny looks. One rather obnoxious elder said something along the lines of "I haven't seen one of those in a long time! I remember using it for research years ago. Can I ask your motivation for using it at the meeting instead of the NWT?" It was clearly meant as "be careful you're not doing this for the wrong reasons" (read: being critical of the NWT).

  Someone else asked "why would you use a translation that's inferior to the NWT?" When I showed them that it was in fact printed and distributed by the WTS, they got a confused look on their face and quickly changed the subject.
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  Leaked New Songs 139-142

  by toweragent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jwtalk.net/forums/files/download/498-songs-140-142/.

  i don't know if anybody has seen this (or if anybody cares).

  but it seems that some of the "new" new songs have been leaked by somebody at bethel.. just a bit of a warning, do not click on that vocal rendition of song 142... it is awful.

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  This "Pioneer" song is just plain....odd.
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  "Millions Will Attend -Will You?" Mea Culpa!

  by Joe Grundy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dubs are working the housing estate where i live.

  i was outside my house, applying some tlc to my old jag (worshiping worldly things?)..

  one old guy, half a dozen middle-aged and upwards ladies.

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  Question related to this invitation work:

  Has anyone reviewed the data to see whether there has been any sort of measurable % increase in Memorial attendance since this concerted invitation business (including "pioneer-lite") started several years back?

  I'd be curious to know if it's made any real difference besides killing a few hundred thousand trees to print all those invites.

  R_O
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  30 fricken minutes for a part about "Meetings for field service" !!!! Seriously??

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  30 minutes and a km article of 13 paragraphs to consider how the field service group should be 5 mins brief!.

  how ironic!.

  (find this in the kingdum misery for march).

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  respectful_observer

  My other half (who is not "awake", btw), looked at the schedule, saw who was delivering this part and informed me we would not be attending the meeting that week because of it.

  R_O
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  jwtalk...wow. just...wow.

  by HeyThere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was lurking on jwtalk after trying to read the thread on there about the broadcast about the conti case...and holy moly there are some bat ish crazy talk on that site!

  they also blocked the thread about the broadcast, lol!

  they are scuuuuured (scared).

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  respectful_observer

  Btw, the jwtalk moderators finally "locked" that thread today. Members can still view it, but no one can post to in anymore.
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  KH 1st timer, could use some advice

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey people, .

  i am soon going into a kh for the first time and i could use some advice around etiquette etc.

  i know next to nothing besides the fundamental beliefs of jws, i personally dont believe in any religion, and that stance isnt ever going to change, however i don't want to come across as rude or disrespectful.

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  respectful_observer

  Expect something along these lines:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75TfwZX4B5Y
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  What are the Witnesses Afraid Of ?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if the witnesses have the truth and have been going to meetings for many years and every week they learn how to be effective in the ministry and learn about the bible on sundays and every week have a family worship night, why are they afraid to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with them or question their beliefs?

  if they have the truth then nothing can refute it.

  the truth is the truth.

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  So JWs do all that supposed study, and they can't defend the Bible and their theology.

  That's one of the reasons the GB is so afraid of "higher education".

  Take someone who has spend 18 years of his or her life-- spending 6+ hours a week listening to Bible instruction at the KH, plus Circuit Assemblies, plus Regional Conventions, plus personal study, plus Family Worship, plus field service-- all that time, all that "reasoning", all that indoctrination and building of faith.

  Take that person and put them into one "Intro to Philosophy 101" their Freshman year in a university. It's a class that meets 2-3 week, for 50 minutes, for a total of 12 weeks. By the end of the semester (less than 36 hours of total class time) and suddenly 18 years of all that JW instruction goes out the window.

  36 hours vs. 18 years...and the 36 hours wins most of the time. (Luke 6:49) Wonder why.
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  ...If The "WBT$ GB Rock Star Popes" Sold Their Watches...

  by OUTLAW in

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  wbt$ gb rock star popes and their fancy watches... .. are "extremely expensive" rolex watches being forced on the wbt$ rock star popes?!!...

  are the watches just rolex "knock offs" so the wbt$ gb rock star popes only "appear wealthy"?!...

  .. geoffrey jackson.

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  I'd be awfully surprised if any of those watches had a retail price of over $500. Even if they were gifts, I think that they would be non-luxury brands with a luxury look. The GB isn't that stupid that they would open themselves up to criticism by wearing some luxury brand as well known as Rolex (or similar).

  What is hysterical to me, is that as much as the WTS loves to bash educated, white collar executive jobs, many of them clearly yearn to project that image to the outside world (and to boost their own egos). Instead of wearing a $10,000 Rolex or $3,000 custom suit, they wear flashy Michael Kors watch they got on sale for $109 and the Chaps by Ralph Lauren suit they got on sale for $199, both at Marshalls/T.J. Maxx/Kohls.

  Even their pocket handkerchiefs betray them. Roam the halls and conference rooms of any Fortune 500 company, and you'll see some nice linen pocket squares or the occasional Hermes silk pocket square-- not some 1990s Men's Wearhouse version like most of the GB wear.
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  What are the Witnesses Afraid Of ?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if the witnesses have the truth and have been going to meetings for many years and every week they learn how to be effective in the ministry and learn about the bible on sundays and every week have a family worship night, why are they afraid to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with them or question their beliefs?

  if they have the truth then nothing can refute it.

  the truth is the truth.

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  respectful_observer

  What are the Witnesses Afraid Of ?

  Critical thinking skills.
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  jwtalk...wow. just...wow.

  by HeyThere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was lurking on jwtalk after trying to read the thread on there about the broadcast about the conti case...and holy moly there are some bat ish crazy talk on that site!

  they also blocked the thread about the broadcast, lol!

  they are scuuuuured (scared).

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  respectful_observer

  There's another topic there in a members-only folder titled "sad abuse news". Is that on the same topic? More of the same there?

  That is a thread from 2014 talking about the Jose Lopez case...another $13.5 million judgement:
  

  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135M-Awarded-to-Bible-Teacher-Gonzalo-Campos-Alleged-Abuse-Victim-Jose-Lopez-281031832.html?partner=xfinity1

  The responses are an expected combination of sympathy for the victim, accusations that Satan/apostates are out to smear Jehovah's and the organization's name, questions as to whether the WTS's policies are adequate, and blatant "blind faith" defenses of any-and-all things WTS.