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some (well, me, mostly) are speculating that the wts is planning to distribute a "new new world translation" some time soon.. if that is true, what changes do you think they would include?.

I'd laugh if they managed to slip in some Org buzzwords into the NT (e.g., "those taking the lead" becomes "elders and MS's; Barnabas and Timothy become "District Overseers", the "Governing Body" rules on the circumcision issue, etc.)

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Who still goes to meetings and out in field service?

by SloppyJoe in

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just curious as to who on here still regularly attends meetings and goes out in service?

as i sit at the district convention i can't help but think who else out in the crowd is just like me.

doesn't believe what they hear, but are still here..

respectful_observer

We are still regular meeting attenders. My other half, although not "awake", doesn't really like going to the meetings and finds them even more of a chore than I do, which makes it easy when "better offer" comes along-- friends from out of town, a brunch invite from non-JW friends, beach weather...you get the idea.

As for service, we're techinically "low hour publishers" TM on paper, but in reality we haven't been out door-to-door in almost 3 years. Thankfully, no one seems to really notice, or is willfully blind to the situation. We're well-liked in the hall, good speakers and regular, eloquent commenters, so we've been able to fly under the radar for quite a while now. My other half never complains about getting to sleep late on the weekends, but will occassional express feelings of guilt around this.

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Zealous Witnesses who never had children and regret it now.

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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i had two close friends in the org.

one is in her early thirties and got married last year and the other one is single and in her late twenties.

after reading coc, i couldn't help but feel sad at how ray and his wife felt regret at putting the religion first and not having any children.

respectful_observer

I also wonder how many couples there are where at least one person is "awake", but with family keeping them in they are afraid to have kids because then they're forced to either start indoctrinating their young kids or take a stand and suffer the consequences. So instead they choose not to have kids to continue flying under the radar.

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Zealous Witnesses who never had children and regret it now.

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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i had two close friends in the org.

one is in her early thirties and got married last year and the other one is single and in her late twenties.

after reading coc, i couldn't help but feel sad at how ray and his wife felt regret at putting the religion first and not having any children.

respectful_observer

It's funny...I've actually never really felt like there was pressure on couples to NOT have kids in the area where I grew up-- or maybe it's more generational. I feel like couples who have the means and circumstances to have children and DON'T are looked at with suspicion. There are quite a few couples in my area who both work full time at decent jobs and choose not to have kids and they are constantly badgered by those of the 50+ crowd with statements like:

"Oh, we wish you two would finally just start a family", or

"It's such a shame that none of you couples seem to be having kids", or

"It's so sad. When we were younger, everyone had 3 kids by your age. There were little ones running all over the hall after the meetings. Hardly anyone has kids these days."

Then you watch the looks on their faces when you reply:

"I'd love to have kids too, but given the fact that only 1 in 3 kids stay in 'The Truth' TM , I really don't want to take those chances of never getting to talk to my kids or grandkids someday. Would YOU play those odds?"

They get this depressed/forlorn/sad look of realization across their face and mutter something about "well I'm sure that wouldn't happen in your case" and quickly end the conversation.

R_O

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The Pecking Order Of Jehovah's Witnesses

by minimus in

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they don't realize it but there is a pecking order.

you especially see it when the circuit overseer comes by.

respectful_observer

I think this is the current pecking order:

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Crazy JW chaperon Stories

by superman in

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the jw's must not trust their members or at least don't have too much faith in them when it comes to being alone around member of the opposite sex.

i can remember one time in particular from when i was a teenager that still makes me laugh today.. when i was younger i used to go out in service on a regular basis during the week when i had summer break.

one time when i met for service there were only two other people that showed up.

respectful_observer

When I was dating someone in my congregation, we got pulled aside one day because someone has seen us....walking down the street together without a chaperone!!!

Her parents also insisted that we take seperate vehicles to drive 2 hours to visit them, and that we'd have to sleep in different houses upon our arrival. We were both adults with our own homes. After double-checking the WT CD-ROM (yeah, we actually wasted the time doing that), our response to them was: "Well it's your house and so we'll respect your rules. We've done the research, and unless you can show us from the WT that two dating adults must always travel with a chaperone and cannot sleep under the same roof (in sep bedrooms obviously), I guess we'll never get to visit you as a dating couple." Two days later they called back and said one car and sleeping under one roof would be fine.

As an aside, I think it's hysterical that the Bethel dating rules mandate a chaperone in many circumstances, but strangely enough, a Bethelite is aloud to have his girlfriend alone in his room...as long as the door is open. Anyone who has spent any time at Bethel knows that the corridors there are ghost towns 95% of the time. Even if the door WAS open, how many random Bethelites would just wander into a random room just because the door was open. I can only imagine the amount of hanky panky that has occurred under that "open door" policy.

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Who could tell me the current WT stance on JW's Facebook, etc.use?

by Glander in

seems that over recent months that jw's were being forbade to participate due to interaction with mentally deseased apostates.

has this been softened?

i have a reason for asking.. i use the word "current" because it seems the watchtower "use by" dates are getting shorter all the time.

respectful_observer

Pretty much "if you choose to use it, don't abuse it." I've never read in any publication, nor heard from any stage that JWs are forbidden to use it.

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You can now get into debt using credit cards to donation to the JW's

by life is to short in

i knew this was coming but to actually see it was another thing.. i am a huge dave ramsey follower where he hates debt and charging on credit cards.

he totally feels everyone should be out of debt and pay cash only.

that everyone needs to do plastic plastic surgery to cut up their credit cards.

respectful_observer

On a related note, they read a letter from the Branch at the Service Meeting this week highlighting several ways you can contribute electronically to the World Wide Work TM . One method was by sending an email to the branch (specific email address was provided) with "Donor ID Request" in the subject line. They will assign you a specific donor ID that you can include in the reference line of any checks you send them via online banking (even for monthly recurring payments, as was pointed out in the letter!). I suspect the donor ID makes it easier for everyone to track for receiving an acknowledgement letter from the WTS annually for tax purposes.

R_O

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