as a george carlin fan i keep thinking he has got a point when he says that men are generally very insecure about their dick size.
countries go to war if they think someone got bigger dicks than them.. lately there seem to have been such a lesser scale war here on the board.
the problem in this particular case is that the ones who quite obviously got bigger dicks were women!.
Hi Norm,
You make a good point. I have often asserted privately that some here are obviously members of the LDC (Little Dick Club). In fact, I think we may even have the chairman of the board and the C.O.O. in our midst.
Glad someone else thinks so too.
Julie, who assures Norm he has more credibility in his little finger than many will ever have, ever
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18103&site=3.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18103&site=3.
regards,tina edited by - tina on 28 june 2001 6:52:50 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=7500&site=3.
It's ok Amazing,
You just say what you have to cause you and I know what's important right? How'd that go again? As long as your "credibility and reputation are still intact big whoop", right? Yeah something like that. You just keep working on the image there, you and Larc can hold each other's hands (or whatever).
I got midnight here Cowboy so I'm goin' off into the sunset, not to return after the repugnant events of today's revisit (why am I not surprised you played a part in it??). Hope you some day realize it's not all about you but I won't hold my breath.
Good luck carrying those hefty chips on your shoulder for the rest of your life, bet they are getting HEEEAVYYY.
Julie, who realizes how fortunate she is to have such a rich, full Real Life, unlike some
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18103&site=3.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18103&site=3.
regards,tina edited by - tina on 28 june 2001 6:52:50 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=7500&site=3.
Well Amazing,
As I have told you more than once in e-mail, I have absolutely no interest in rehashing the whole Amazing/Amnesian debacle. If you want to obsess over stuff that happened months ago that is your business. Besides, what sort of reply could you possibly be satisfied with other than a "loooooooong" reply with many quotes and lengthy argument? Frankly I missed half of the arguments you cite, have no interest in looking them up, pouring over them and constructing a rebuttal to your post to Tina. Sorry dude but I have too much real life for that. You apparently have that sort of time. Good for you. If it's that important to you have at it.
As to this:
:You have no room to talk. After I said my "farewell" you kept on posting about me, kicking me when I was down and out.
YOU???? The Great Amazing "down and out"?????? Oh come now. It was nothing remember? Didn't you later boast how it was nothing to you and you just pretty much blew it off for the time being? If I recall correctly I was basically explaining my assertions to your defenders once you'd left. Imagine it however you like Amazing, I wasn't starting threads trying to provoke you or defame you. In fact, weren't *you* starting the majority of the threads???
:You are a hypocrit.
No Amazing, this is an entirely situation.
:Now, when 'what goes around comes around,' you are all of a sudden stricken with a conscience.
Ooooh, you infer that I previously had no conscience. Conscience about what? Calling you, individual to individual on your posts? You were free to reply effectively and refute all my points but for some reason did (could?) not. I don't have the authority to deactivate someone and did not publically make a threat to deactivate while reproving an individual for a general behavior commonly practiced. Do you see the difference Amazing or do you only see your own never-to-be-healed slight?
:Now, that you little friend is exposed, you are not dealing with the issues, oh no, you just moan and complain ... boo hoo ... poor Julie.
Well Amazing, as I have said countless times to you publically and privately I will not rehash the A/A debacle with you and, like I mentioned in this post, I didn't read the exchanges you cite and wouldn't waste the time on the endless project it would surely be. If Tina is so inclined, which I suspect she'll be deactivated anyway, she can do her own. I've got too much real life and not enough interest in your old, harboring-for-life issues.
As to moaning and complaining, well I merely said I thought it rather nasty to post this at the time. It even smells a lot like bait. No boo hooing for me, I am not emotionally involved in the least. When I wake up tomorrow this place will merely be a place I share laughs about in the future with some of the great friends I have made.
Good to get this one last glimpse through your transparency though.
You all have a nice life now--
Julie, who has confirmed much on this last day re-visit to ol' JWD
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18103&site=3.
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regards,tina edited by - tina on 28 june 2001 6:52:50 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=7500&site=3.
Wow. Classic kick them while they are down. Very Brave of You Amazing.
How it must hurt to harbor such slights for such interminably long times, I am truly sorry that every slight you may incur on this DB is so monumental to you (let's face it, this took you some time and effort--explains a lot). I am also sorry that your life is such that you have room for these small items in the forefront. Must be a rather sad world there for you. My sympathies. Even though your attempt to strike your target at such a time speaks volumes of you and none of it's good.
You're quite a specimen.
Still waiting for Refiner's opinion in another thread, if he replies after tonight I'll miss it.
Julie, who wonders if Simon will count this thread as "trying to provoke Tina into getting deactivated if she chooses to stay" and thinks he should as it is so blatant
twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.
" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.
in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.
Hi Larc,
You seem to take issue with my assertion that an undergrad has shown you up in your Self Esteem thread. Here is a quote from you in that thread:
:No study has validated Freudian Psycoanalysis. It is a technique that has been proven to be invalid. It is ineffective and inefficient
Ok, this was your contention in that thread. Then you wrote a post about psychoanalysis. Here is some of it:
:On a previous thread, the question of the effectiveness of Psychanalysis came up. Since then, I have done some research.
A recent article* summarized the results of three literature surveys, and the author came up with the following conclusions:
(I find it interesting that what Seeker and Tina knew practially off the top of their heads, you, a PhD in the field had to "research")
1. For major affective disorders, and major psychoses, psychpharmacological treatment works best.
2. For symptomatic anxiety based disorders, such as phopias, generalized anxiety disorders, panic disorder, obsessive complulsive disorder, and post - traumatic stress disorder, cognitive and behavioral treatments work best.
3. For personality disorders and complex comorbid disorders with an underlying personality disorder, long term relationship therapies work best. Among these theraputic types would be pscyhoanalysis.
So, in the history of theraputic intervention, psychoanalysis has gone from a cure all, to one method of several that can be called upon to help in category three above.
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So then you concede the point that psychoanalysis is OK in some instances. But of course you don't put it in the form of a concession do you dear? No, you put in the form of a revelation, as though you were proving them wrong. I never saw anyone claim psychoanalysis was effective in all cases, just *some* as your "research" verifies. Yes, I'd say you were initially wrong, they were right and you found that out when you took the time to look into it. You were wrong, Tina was right. That's gotta hurt. Certainly explains your stalking behavior.
Though I left it out, your cute little remark about not wanting to be accused of name-dropping, adorable dear. You apparently do not know the difference between citing a source and name-dropping. Because I do not consider you completely unteachable I will share with you the difference.
Here is a source cited:
It is clear that the distortions manifested in the psychosis are shown by the whole behavior of the person rather than the verbal expressions. Sigmund Freud
Here's an example of name dropping without the name (a more rare sort of name-dropping):
This afternoon, I will be on the campus of Wright State University. While there, I will visit the Wright State Proffesional School of Pshychology, and ask a friend, the assistant Dean, what she would recomend that I read, that is current.
Perhaps she recommended the updated "reserach" presented above? You know where you conced the point without really conceding the point?
Here's another good example which I explained at the time why it was more name-dropping than citing a source.
:My depth of ignorance as you call it is based on the ideas of Albert Ellis, who was voted by his professional peers as being the third most influential Clinical Psychologist in the history of the field. His method of therapy was a major breakthough at a time when it became clear the Freud's method of treatment was very ineffective, per a classic study by Hans Eyzenck, a British Psychologist.
See this was designed to belittle me, to make me feel foolish for criticizing your calluosness and lack of knowledge of your subject in the Self Esteem thread. Besides, you have to concede the point about psychoanalysis in a later thread so this tells me that your Eyzenck fellow, with his 50 year old breakthroughs might be a little behind the times too.
One last thing Larc, you really do look quite foolish asking Tina and I repeatedly to "come out and play". We have little use for you, you don't much care for either of us so why don't you let it go? Hmmm? Why don't you spend your time a bit more constructively.
Refiner's,
I do not deny that Tina was the one who initially mentioned the names and not very nicely. But it is Larc who REPEATEDLY has been trying to bait her into a big flame war. Perhaps you haven't noticed it is Larc who is ending all his posts with asking Tina (and now me) to "come out and play"? See some of us can say our say and move on. We do not become completely absorbed by the nonsense that goes on here at this obscure, oh-so-small part of our lives DB. Apparently some cannot get over any sort of slight, small or big, real or perceived. It is a sad statement. Wouldn't you agree?
Julie
twice in the past week, from two different posters, i have been called an "asshole.
" in both cases, the person made an assumption about me based on something that was said in a thread.
in both cases, i responded by saying i disagreed with their characterization and explained why.
I haven't been around for many days. I have heard that Larc is still smarting over being shown up by an undergrad but I had to see it to believe it. Larc, a helpful hint, your Freudian Slip is showing, let it go dude. Tina is not interested in your nonsense and I don't think anyone else here is interested in the flame war you are repeatedly trying to start in this thread. Like Grave said, Grow Up. You are merely proving your detractors right. Don't be so transparent man, have you no pride?
No wonder I don't hang out here anymore, such thin skinned folks coupled with small mindedness, not very appealing to those wishing to continue learning and growing. Isn't that why you spend soooooo much time here Larc? To "help others"? Who is you are trying to help in this thread?? It is obvious and should be embarrassing to you. It's not all about you Larc. Get over it. At least for the sake of everyone else.
Julie
this danny pearl thing has brought home memories of murder to me(my 1st husband) please,please.......just say you care right now-nothing else.......please.i'm having a real emotional night...i had no one before.............t. todays affirmation:.
the complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.
While I no longer plan to participate here, I heard about this thread and was compelled to reply after reading it.
It is obvious that my dear friend Tina has some very good friends and that doesn't surprise me. Your kind thoughts are appreciated a great deal.
Prisca, lol, oh honey, you never let me down do you? Another "innocent" inquiry by someone who doesn't have the guts to stand up and admit the snideness. This characteristic is pretty common here on JWD, we call it cowardice here in my world. As to your "suggestion" that Tina seek aid in the "real world" ROFL!!! Yeah, you are quite the expert on reality aren't you dear? What say you post your "real life" picture? Hmmmm? Show me yours and I'll show you mine.....
Larc, it is obvious to me you are cozying up to Prisca in this thread cause you are still smarting that an undergrad makes you look like the ignoramus that you are. (Side note here, lol, was amused to see you start your distraction Self Esteem II thread, you taking lessons from Amazing lately or what??? LOL) I don't care how many years of school you have behind you, it is apparent you have learned little about humanity in your life. Comparing those who "died" (I'm guessing by the term "died" you are referring to natural causes) to the experience Tina is referring to, pathetic. Maybe you are so simple you don't realize the difference between someone dying and watching someone be brutally murdered. Yet another glimpse of your ignorance. Horrifying. Do your loyal followers a favor and at least start reading RECENT self-help books, will ya?
To everyone here I regard highly, I will stay in touch, some of you, seek help quick.
Come on Tina, let's move on to bigger and better things.
Julie, who urges Abaddon to NEVER cut his hair
self esteem.
now i have seen people write about the fact that they have low self esteem, as an xjw.
now, this not unique.
Hi Larc,
Write away my friend--have at it. Yes I saw your post where you claimed you'd written a detailed reponse but couldn't post it because you had hit your limit. So you couldn't post your detailed response but you posted your explanation for not doing so and then another for whatever reason. Now *that* is interesting.
Frankly Larc, I am not all that interested. I stand by my views of your post and my subsequent words. As to the namedropping thing that so irritated you, have a look at your last post in this thread. LOL Oooooooh, I am *so* impressed......not really. Frankly, it's a thing with me, I steadfastly refuse to EVER be inpressed when someone is intentionally trying to do so. Therefore I am singularly UNimpressed with pretty much all you have said in order to sound impressive.
Save your breath, I couldn't be less interested (or likely less impressed) with what you may have to say to me at this point.
Regards,
Julie
self esteem.
now i have seen people write about the fact that they have low self esteem, as an xjw.
now, this not unique.
Morning Larc,
Interesting that the *only* part of my post you address is the little jab. Absolutely not one point that I tried to make was addressed. Very telling. As is the way you presented your Expert. Go and re-read what you wrote Larc. Was it designed to back up your simplistic nonsese approach to the matter of self esteem or was it designed to make me look foolish for disagreeing with your methods?
Your Freudian slip was showing there friend, sorry. And no, I am not partial to WT methods of misquoting sources or not naming their source for partial or twisted quotes (nice inferrence though--keep on villianizing those critics--works for others, why not you?). A simple "this is an established method by an established expert named...." would have sufficed. Like I said, go re-read it and then, honestly, tell my why you chose the method you did to establish the credibility of your methods. Not that I really care, just figured I'd show you the error of your ways if you were expecting some sort of "oh your so right Larc, I beg forgiveness for disagreeing with you". You will seldom get such graciousness when going to any length to try to make someone look/feel foolish for voicing their opinions. But, being the expert that you are, I am sure you already knew that didn't you?
As Seeker Said:
:I thought the opening comment in this thread to be hurtful to those who are too damaged to just "get over it," and such a comment would do more harm than good to such ones. It was for the benefit of such ones that might be lurking in this thread that I said what I did.
Yes, I thought it a "more harm than good" thing too. Regardless of *whose* methods you applied. Just my view.
Regards,
Julie
self esteem.
now i have seen people write about the fact that they have low self esteem, as an xjw.
now, this not unique.
Waiting,
I want you to know that I am sincerely happy that you were one of the lucky ones who managed to hold on long enough to make it to an age to take steps, and still be able to see you needed the help. Regardless of how often we may disagree I am truly happy he didn't break you and you made it. You're right, "it is worth the trip - as you are worth the effort to define yourself." You are worth it, everyone, every little child, every grown person is worth it. Unfortunately some do not hold on to that sliver of sanity that leads to seeking help.
I am happy, no, DELIGHTED for all with such endings as yours. It is those who go beyond that crucial point, someone *does* break them, they never make it anywhere near those happy endings, that I will forever mourn. It's a personal thing and I am on a life-long mission to raise awareness, everywhere, of the importance of addressing these horrors in childhood that go on around us so we can have less who even have to survive such, much less surviving unbroken. It is the cause closest to my heart.
Warm regards and commendations on your survival--
Julie
