Quit the JW. Quit the WT. She is likely rebelious to their mind control and their shunning.
Posts by Gerard
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19I dont think I can take it anymore
by mamashel ini have only posted a few times so far, and i dont want to sound like a constant complainer or whiner, but i really need someone to talk to and some feed back.
we used to go to the elders with problems, and i have turned and leaned on you all now.
first i would like to thank you all for your kind and caring feedback.. my daughter has broken my heart.
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WT Fined $50,000 for pollution [improved scans!]
by JWrobot inpage 8 .
since watchtower attempted to "ruin the earth" they were required to post $25,000.00 bond in their cleanup effort.
if watchtower continues to comply with the law of the land, $20,000.00 of the $50,000.00 fine is suspended.
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Gerard
Yep. the goverment says the shale mine belongs to the WTBTS:
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Article on WT & its links with the US Navy
by Gerard inseveral weeks ago i heard of the wt owning stocks on dubious companies.
i logged into this board and i got a lead to regi us inc.'s filings to the sec stating watchtower's partial ownership.
i took the leads contained within and followed the trail all the way to the us navy and us department of defense.
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Gerard
ErieFly:
What is more valid: A lie backed up with the Bible or the truth backed up with physical proofs?
Gerard
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Non-JW wanting to Date a JW....some advice?
by Radium inok here is my situation, i met this girl that is a jw....she is not that heavily into her religion but we talked for a long time face to face and she is very hesitant on attempting to start a relationship.
so i have been researching for the past couple of days to undersatnd her religion and see if there is anything that i could use to dissuade her from saying no.
so last night we talked about the ifs, and buts, and such stuff like that.
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Gerard
My situation is similar. But I know I am in love and have done all I can do...I am at a the point of wait and see. My advice is that
1) you read Franz' books: "Crisis of Consciense" and "In search of Christian Freedom". It will show you what to expect as a husband of a JW and fathering a child with her. It ain't pretty. It will likely break your relationship because they just can't compromise. They have interesting legal advice for divorce and child custody you may want to be warned about...
2) Have her read these books so she understands your anxiety...maybe she'll awake in the process.
I have decided that I will never marry a member of the Borg collective and certainly my future children will not be assimilated. Never. Even if it breaks my heart.
Gerry
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PROOF at Last: WT. POLLUTES - $50,000.00 fine
by JWrobot insince watchtower attempted to "ruin the earth" they were required to post $25,000.00 bond in their cleanup effort.
if watchtower continues to comply with the law of the land, $20,000.00 of the $50,000.00 fine is suspended.
your personal copy of this is available under (foil) freedom of information law from: .
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Gerard
Ok, I found from the NY Department of Environmental Conservation that t he mine in question is a shale mine in the town of SHAWANGUNK, Ulster County, NY. and is in fact owned by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society:
Go to : http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dmn/minres/shale.htm and then click on " View a listing of the shale mines and operators in New York State." The exact address is http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/dmn/minres/shale_xls.htm
Do a word search using "Watchtower". It is the fifth before last.
The WT's contact is
914-744-2041 DENNIS OSTENDORF Don't you love where your donated money went? But if raping the Earth for money is approved by God himself....
Gerard
Edited by - Gerard on 11 September 2002 17:2:36
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What is the Watchtower Educational Center?
by Gerard inthe wtbts owns something called the watchtower educational center .
"putnam county - the town of patterson, as lead agency, has determined that the proposed watchtower amended site plan may have a significant adverse environmental impact and a draft eis must be prepared.
a public scoping session will be held on may 30, 2002 at 7:30 p.m. at the patterson town hall, po box 470, 1142 route 311, patterson, ny 12563. written comments will be accepted until june 13, 2002. the action involves expansion of the existing watchtower educational center with the construction of two new residence buildings, an office building, additions to the audio/video building and a new maintenance building which total 172, 500 square feet.
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Gerard
The WTBTS owns something called the Watchtower Educational Center .
What is it?
"Putnam County - The Town of Patterson, as lead agency, has determined that the proposed Watchtower Amended Site Plan may have a significant adverse environmental impact and a Draft EIS must be prepared. A public scoping session will be held on May 30, 2002 at 7:30 p.m. at the Patterson Town Hall, PO Box 470, 1142 Route 311, Patterson, NY 12563. Written comments will be accepted until June 13, 2002. The action involves expansion of the existing Watchtower Educational Center with the construction of two new residence buildings, an office building, additions to the audio/video building and a new maintenance building which total 172, 500 square feet. The parcel on which the new buildings will be constructed is approximately 362.5+ acres. The project is located within the Town of Patterson Putnam County, NY, on the east side of NYS Route 22, approximately 7/10 of a mile north of the intersection of Haviland Hollow Road, Town of Patterson.
Contact: Richard Williams, Patterson Town Hall, PO Box 470, 1142 Route 311, Patterson, NY 12563, phone: (845) 878-6500, e-mail:[email protected]"
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PROOF at Last: WT. POLLUTES - $50,000.00 fine
by JWrobot insince watchtower attempted to "ruin the earth" they were required to post $25,000.00 bond in their cleanup effort.
if watchtower continues to comply with the law of the land, $20,000.00 of the $50,000.00 fine is suspended.
your personal copy of this is available under (foil) freedom of information law from: .
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Gerard
Check this out:
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PROOF at Last: WT. POLLUTES - $50,000.00 fine
by JWrobot insince watchtower attempted to "ruin the earth" they were required to post $25,000.00 bond in their cleanup effort.
if watchtower continues to comply with the law of the land, $20,000.00 of the $50,000.00 fine is suspended.
your personal copy of this is available under (foil) freedom of information law from: .
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Gerard
deddaisy,
This is the information you were wondering about Reg Tech's relationship to mining operations. But it is ABOVE the WT's "Sister Companies" so I am sure it is unrelated:
Mr. Robertson has been our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer since
our formation. Since October 1984 Mr. Robertson has been President and a
Director of Reg Technologies Inc., a British Columbia corporation listed on the
Canadian Venture Exchange that has financed the research on the Rand Cam Engine
since 1986. REGI U.S. is controlled by Rand Energy Group, Inc., a British
Columbia corporation of which Reg Technologies Inc. is the majority shareholder.
REGI U.S. owns the U.S. rights to the Rand Cam (TM) technology and Rand Energy
Group, Inc. owns the worldwide rights exclusive of the U.S. Mr. Robertson is
President, Principal Executive Officer and a member of the Board of Directors of
IAS Communications, Inc., an Oregon corporation traded on the OTC bulletin
board, which is developing a new type of antenna system. Since June 1997 Mr.
Robertson has been President, Principal Executive Officer and a Director of
Information-Highway.com, Inc., a Florida corporation traded on the OTC bulletin
board, and its predecessor. He is also the President and Founder of Teryl
Resources Corp., a public company trading on the Canadian Venture Exchange
involved in gold, diamond, and oil and gas exploration. He is also President of
LinuxWizardry Systems, Inc., a public company trading on the OTC Bulletin Board.
Linux Wizardry's Apprentice Router allows small businesses to establish and
manage network connections without the need of a Network specialist. Since May
1977 Mr. Robertson has been President and a member of the Board of Directors of
SMR Investments Ltd., a British Columbia corporation engaged in the business of
management and investment consulting.http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/000106299302000371/form10k.txt
Edited by - Gerard on 11 September 2002 13:26:19
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Carl Sagan's remarks
by Gerard in"they announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout.
it is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all.
but religions are tough.
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Gerard
"They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. " Carl Sagan
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Passive Resistence ... 10 Step Program
by Amazing inlegalism: over the last few years ex-jws have discussed much about how to deal with the jws legally, to stop slander, harassment, etc.
... and then somehow try to avoid being da'd or df'd.
this can work, but it take some preplanning and careful strategy to implement ... and in the end, the ex-jw often still gets shunned.
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Gerard
Dear Amazing,
What about reinstatement followed by a swift change of address -within the same city- and keeping one's name unlisted from the phone pages?
Thank you,
Gerard