Posts by justhuman

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Jesus never used the name Jehovah???

by Mrs Smith in

my hubby and i have been doing a lot of bible reading are we correct by saying that jesus never once used the name jehovah?

if the name is so important surely jesus would have used it?

the jw's say that jesus was the greatest teacher and that we should follow his example so why are they using a name that jesus did not once refer to.

justhuman

Actually from the old Greek manuscrips that supposed they change the name Yahwe(the correct pronouncation for Jehovah)with Lord, we find no evidence of the Watchtower's accusation regarding changing Gods name.

But since the leadership of the WT are a banch of unaducated old people, have NO idea of Greek language, The Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit share the same name. And there are many biblical verses that indicates this clearly to us. And the common name for them is Yahwe. Jesus said this when he asked his disciples to baptize in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The 3 Persons of the Trinity share the same name. It is very simple.

But of course the main problem was Rutherfords attitude towards the Bible Students, the real followers of Russell, and he wanted to take the credit for him self, so he came up (after drinking a couple of bottles of Scotch)of changing the name to Jehovahs Witnesses. So actually they became Josephs Witnesses.

But he forget also that Jesus said that you are my Witnesses, and you will suffer for my name, and what ever you ask in behalf of my name I will give it to you. Also Jesus said that I'm the way and life. In Antioch the Jesus followers the use the name Christians in order to identify themselfs as followers of Jesus. So God asked for us to use the name of Jesus, so it should be Jesus Witnesses.

But Jesus also he called him, Father. And the is the correct way for a Son to call his Dad. You don't call your father by his name. And this is another problem that WT has. The Israelites they had Master - Slave, relation with God and that is why they are refering God with His name. But Christians do not have this relation with God. Christians they use the word Father for God, because they are now children of God through Jesus sacrifice.

So this makes JW's slaves and it is correct for them to use the name of Yahwe when they are calling God...

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MY OBSERVATIONS FROM THE MEMORIAL TONIGHT (just got home)

by Mary in

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well, as per usual, the memorial talk bored the hell out of me, but i found it, in one way to be an improvement over last years when they had the most boring speaker on the planet there http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/111544/1.ashx this guy at least knew how to speak.

unfortunately, he didn't have much of a script to work with.. there was the mention of adam sinning and mankind needing a redeemer etc., no mention of when the israelites left egypt though.

that's probably the first year i've ever seen where this hasn't been mentioned.

justhuman

Good I know I didn't miss ANYTHING by not attempting there!!!

I'm glad that I HAVE FINISHED with this cult.

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THE HAPPY FACTOR

by Dogpatch in

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here's a question that i haven't seen addressed directly:.

why are there many witnesses who enjoy the organization immensely?.

no matter what you tell them, they would not dream of leaving.

justhuman

Randy actually the happy factor it is a drug. Jw's are NOT happy people. It is just a lie created for the GB to ease the pain of their followers because they ARE NOT NORMAL people.

When I was there I could see the fear and agony in their eyes why did Armageddon didn't came yet. And when a bad event occured they were eager to see if this event will be the start of Armageddon. Like the Gulf War, the boming of Serbia, 9/11, war in Avganistan, war in Iraq, the Palestinian issue, the Tsunami, and now maybe the new war in Iran.

Every time a bad happened JW's are so happy for that because it is a proof that we are close to the end!!! And every time their expectations failed just like 1914, 1918, 1925, 1942, 1975, the generation.

I was the most unhappy person in the world, just like any other kid raising in the most mind destructive cult. No birthdays gifts, christmas gifts, and all the other kids they used to take as a granded. Specially the fear of Armageddon that would destroyed all of my non JW's friends, and the birds of prey will eat their flesh after.

S***t I just hated there. Now I have get rid all of their crap theology and I found meaning and hapiness in my life on the one hand, but on the other my decision cost me my family. Yes I lost my family from the most happy Organization in the world!!! For my wife I don't care less, I try to help her to see why I didn't like meetings and after why I have stoped believing in the False Prophets in Brooklyn. She turn me in to the Elders for apostasy!!! And I told them straight in their eyes that they are following a False Prophet...and happily they disfellowshiped me!!!

But I didn't had any choice. I have 2 small children and I will try to get them out of the s***t.

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What Do YOU Think Is The BIGGEST Revelation That Has Gotten JWs Exposed???

by minimus in

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for me, it was the un debacle.

their association and weak retreat was priceless.

after that, silentlambs ranks right up there.. of course, if it were not for ray franz, many of us would've never even thought about leaving!.

justhuman

I believe the changing of their doctrine regarding the famous generation, and the seperation work(sheep/goats)

In just less than 8 years most of my friends, and I have left the Org realizing that we spend our time pioneering for NOTHING...

Then it was the issue of the 144.000 and specially those who partake from the so called "emplems" This havenly class people they don't seem to die. More than 20 years the number it is unchanged basically, something that didn't make sense if the door closed back in 1935. Of course now they change it!!!

Then all the rest scandals U.N. Pedophile, Rand Cam Technologies scandal.

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anyone else out there land on a psych ward after being df'd???

by Messy in

its a long story that starts with panic attacks going door to door and ended with a 2 month vacation in the cornwall on.

psych floor for two months.

i was stalked by the elders for 3 years after i stopped going to meetings.

justhuman

It seems that many of us had similar problems, with panic attacks etc, etc. No matter of our back round (social possition, country)

I did had panic attacks for 2 years. It was the time when I realize that I was in lie called WATCHTOWER. My wife thought I'm crazy, turn me to the elders because I wasn't "good witness" and I had doubts.

With Gods help, I overcome the problem, and I'm much better regarding the psycological factor. I was disfellowshiped for apostasy in 15th of January this year.

This ended up my marriage, and I had to leave home. But no matter what I will never go back to that crazy, psycopathetic, doomsday cult. I have a life of my own, and I fight to make with the WT, so that I will get my 2 little daughters out of the hands of the most dangerous cult in the world

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When JW parents shun their df'd children...and grandchildren

by Paisley in

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this seems the epitome of "lacking natural affection".

can you imagine being a parent and not being interested in how your own children are doing?

and what about carrying it even further, having nothing to do with your grandchildren, just because the parents are disfellowshipped?

justhuman

I believe the WATCHTOWER it is the worst cult in the entire world. But what you can expect from a guy like Russell and Rutherford, full of occultic activities and having NO IDEA what the Bible really is about.

However my expierience living in the other part of the world indicates that Watchtower it is not so powerfull regarding shunning...and I'm very glad of that

Have in mind that we Greeks have STRONG family bonds, it seems that they cannot be harmed very much from a man made religion made in U.S.A

Just to give some examples of what I'm really talking about.

1. I have been disfellowshiped for apostasy six months ago. My mam and my sister still talk to me like nothing happened. I visit her for the weekends with my 2 children and she is acting like nothing happened

2. One of my cousins she got baptized and married in a Greek Orthodox church. Still all of my JW relatives speak to her, and visit her

3.Another cousin of mine she got married and her father in law who was disfellowshiped few years ago, was present ALL THE way from the start of the wedding ceremony untill the end, end to the weding reception he stood next to his son.

4.A friend of mine that was disfellowshiped all his relatives still speak to him like nothing happened.And his relatives are elders, and ms.

5.A friend of mine that has written a book regarding leaving the WATCHTOWER CULT, and it was puplished by Greek Orthodox Church, his relatives speak to him and also some brothers have read the book(that also indicates some wrong teaching of the WT, like 607, the Great Crowd, if the Church has ever been an apostate, and some other vital teaching of the WT that have no Biblical stand)

6. Another family friend and to my parents also, that has been disfellowshiped, when he comes on holidays he visits his relatives, parents, and they are happy to see him. Also he visits my parents because they were friends since childhood, and they even invite him for a dinner!!!

This are just few examples that I have in mind at the momment.

It is obvious that when we have STRONG FAMILY BONDS, and specially this bonds have their basis to the Greek Orthodox Church, that for thousands of years stands the pillar of Christianity in the World, a cult that was set up just few years ago, CANNOT preveil the family union.

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Are you disfunctional after being a witness?

by Save My Soul in

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after not embracing many of the key practices of the witnesses (since 1995), i find it hard to fit into society in some ways.

pre-generation change, i was reading the bible to justify celebrating my sons 3rd b-day.

i knew of the common examples cited by the society, but wanted more.

justhuman

Actually NO...I FEEL GOOD CELEBRATING MY BIRTHDAYS, NEW YEARS PARTIES, CHRISTMAS, EASTER, AND MANY OTHER CELEBRATIONS...

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Who are following Jesus' and the Apostles' teachings today...?

by Justahuman24 in

please, this question is for those who are christians and believe in the bible.

no need for those who are not christians, don't believe in the bible or mock religion/the bible/god/jesus to respond, especially if the response is going to be nasty or offensive.

what christian group do you guys think is following in the footsteps of jesus and the apostles?

justhuman

Good question!!!

1.Perhaps you should look the ones that have the Apostolic line for the last 2000 years and they can PROOVE IT all the way.

2.The Church that the Holy Spirit it is STILL active, with Prophets, Saints and miracles.

3.The ones that have put together the Bible that you are holding, and they have kept the teachings of Christ for the last 2000 years

4.The ones that speak and know the deep meanings of the language that the Bible and specially the New Testament (Greek Scriptures) was written...

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2006 SERVICE REPORT - Feb 1, 2007 WT

by Mary in

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i'm not sure if anyone's posted this yet, but here are the figures for the 2006 service report.

i highlighted the countries that have either a "0" or negative growth in yellow and i highlighted key countries where the you would expect more growth......i tried looking for england's stats, but i couldn't see it.

i looked under "england" and "united kingdom" but i can't see it.

justhuman

I believe that as we are getting closer to the year 2014, more and more Witnesses will be leaving. It is so boring listening the same crap all this years. The GB has NOTHING to offer. they better find some thing else to do. The spiritual situation is bad for them.

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deceased relatives and visiting in dreams

by snarf in

my grandmother passed away in december of this past year.

she believed that all religions were full of false teachings, therefor at times turning to supernatural beliefs.

she believed in ghosts, life after death, etc... anywho, i had a dream a couple weeks ago, very vivid, and we were riding in an old truck down a dirt road with corn growing on both sides.

justhuman

I believe there is life after death, and somehow there are some ways that the deceased relatives or friends can condact with their dear ones.

Dreams it is one way of communication, and specially after leaving the WT I have a personal experience that dead peopel gave me some warnings, regarding a person and they came true. In one other occasion I have talked to my dead uncles that they are waiting for my dad and that I should prepare him to meet them. They knew that I was no longer an active JW and they wanted me to tell my father that WT's believes regarding death are wrong. And after a while my father died.

Just before he died while he was in coma I have seen him in my dreams telling me that he will go, and he will be okey and, that I have a long straggle to do. Before he died I found a book at my dads library with the title LIFE AFTER LIFE and it is from Raymond Rusty, who describes people that had near death experiences. I was very suprised to found this book because my dad he was never reading anything exept the Watchtower magazines. It was just after he had a second heart attack and he was in coma for a month. So I concluded that he had a near death experience.

I strongly believe that there is life after death, and people on the other side can help us some how