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  Kurt does "field service" in a laundromat and is not even a Jehovah's Witness

  by kurtbethel in

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  the recent socal rain storms had me needing to go to a launrdomat to dry some clothes.

  so i get inside and see that one of the friendly neighborhood jehovah's witnesses has left a little dish of spiritual food.

  being the benevolent soul that i am, i took my handy pen and added some additional spice to the bland spiritual food offered by the watchtower.. .

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  noolite

  Nice, except the name of this site is www.jehovahs-witness.net and not "witnesses" as you wrote...

  Good work, though!
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  Who here lives in California?

  by TimothyT in

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  if you do tell me a bit about where you live in just a few words.

  :).

  timmy :).

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  I'm in the IE (Inland Empire, for those who don't live in California). It's about 40 miles due East of Los Angeles, and I'm North of the 210 freeway. I live almost right in the mountains, the neighborhood I'm in is in a small valley between ranges. Lookng out of my front window, about a block from here the mountain rises nearly straight up to several thousand feet. In the winter, these mountains are dusted with snow, during the summer there's just scrub brush growing on them. Sometimes they burn in the Fall months when the Santa Ana winds blow through here. It's a beautiful area, I'm about 2200 feet above the valley floor so there's a nice view of the city lights at night. It's a bit hot here in the Summer months, generally 8 to 10 degrees hotter than in LA or at the coast. On the plus side, though, it's a bit warmer than LA in the Winter.
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  Ex-Fleetwood Mac member Bob Welch dead

  by finallysomepride in

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  sorry if this has already been posted.

  http://au.launch.yahoo.com/news/article/-/13900789/ex-fleetwood-mac-member-bob-welch-dead/.

  another rocker gone & sadly missed.

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  noolite

  Yes, he sang "Ebony Eyes" at CalJam II years ago, with Stevie Nicks. Great guy. I hung out with several members of Fleetwood Mac from about 1985 - 1995, mostly with Mick Fleetwood & John McVie...went to Mick's wedding years ago when he married Sara Recor. She was a good friend of mine and included me in all the "Mac" happenings. I more or less stopped hanging out with them mostly due to burnout, and the fact it was a long drive from OC (where I lived) to the Valley (where John lives) and Malibu (where Mick & Sara lived). I had a real job back then, and weekends at their place took its toll on me and I had to bring an end to it. But stories? Boy, do I have stories (and the video to prove it)
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  Showed the new JW cartoon to my non-witness Girlfriend- Take 2

  by KidKool in

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  allright my first post messed up and i lost it some kind of way.

  haven't posted on here in along time, obviously don't know how to anymore.. trying again.. so i was raised a jw, da for over a decade, of course estranged from parents and jw family, have a teenage son from a previous relationship.. anyways, i wanted to see what someone who had no first hand knowledge of the jws would think.

  so i showed my non-jw girlfriend the obey jehovah (go sparlock!

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  noolite

  I showed these videos yesterday to my wife (who was never JW, and is from E. Europe) and she was very confused. I have told her how my brother and I had very few toys when we were children, since there was no Christmas - and we all know very few got gifts "all year long". She saw Caleb playing with toys on the floor in the first video, and then told he couldn't have Sparlock in the second, which confused her. She thought we weren't allowed to have toys at all, so she misunderstood the message. I never told her that, but this was her perception of what I told her in the past.

  She actally sort of liked the first video, even though I said "don't you think it's a bit over the top, with mom crying over some mud tracked in?" She sort of agreed with me, but still more or less agreed with the message of "obey your parents". As for the second video, I think she didn't quite get it at all. I had to explain that it wasn't the toy, it was because it was "magical" that made it taboo. In the end, due to the misunderstanding, she wasn't all that outraged by the cartoon like I had hoped she would be. I guess it also kind of hard for someone not brought up this way to see the allegorical (to XJW's) meaning to this story.

  Then I played the song "Listen, obey,..." but I had to stop it within 30 seconds, I just couldn't listen to it anymore. It nauseates me to even hear this kind of indoctrination in a song and I told her I was turning it off. We had a long discussion about how I grew up JW but she still doesn't quite get it, how someone can believe in such a strange interpretation of the bible. I'll keep trying, though. I really want her to understand just how I came to be the way I am, since for better or worse (99% worse) it was a large part of my life.
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  Are Jehovah,s Witnesses unique.

  by jam in

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  can you think of one single thing that set them apart.

  from other religious organization.

  witnessess love to.

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  noolite

  Just last night, a new episode of Family Guy was devoted exclusively to Christian Scientists, where Lois tries to save the baby boy of a friend who refused to get treatment for his cancer. Now, if only they would have an episode about JW's

  http://www.avclub.com/articles/livin-on-a-prayer,68400/

  They've mentioned JW's in the past on this show, where the "Evil Monkey" in Chris' closet becomes a JW (he opens the closet door and has a WT and Awake in his hands) and JW's have been mentioned in at least one other episode. But not an entire episode like last night's about CS. Maybe it is coming? We can only hope...
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  Draconian Rules for Attending "Special Convention"

  by BluesBrother in

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  british dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.

  o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.

  however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.

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  Damn, where were these restrictions back when I was a kid, forced to attend the Pasadena Rose Bowl DA (Sept 1963, and I was almost 6 years old at the time)? It was hotter than hell and we were stuck a couple of hours on a bus trying to just get into the stadium. No Air Conditioning on the bus, of course. And what I remember best about being stuck? I had to pee, and there was nowhere to go! I had to go into a drinking cup in front of everyone, my first "most embarrasing moment" I can remember.

  Boy, it sucked being a kid and being stuck for EIGHT days in the heat from morning till night, with nothing to do except listen to endless droning...sounding like the parents in a Charlie Brown special: Wahwahwah, wa waawa wawawa

  If they'd had this kind of requirements I would have been spared half a lifetime of week-long boredom sessions!
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  How did you leave?

  by stuckinamovement in

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  once you realized the organization is simply a religious corporation, how did you leave?.

  did you fade?.

  were you forced out?.

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  noolite

  Born in, I sort of faded. I moved across the country at 19, thousands of miles away from JW friends and relatives. But, I made the terrible mistake of going back to the KH at my new location for several years, before I just couldn't take it anymore (long, long story). I was unmarried, and had no other friends or relatives here and had to start all over again from zero, reinventing my life. It was hard (I was 24 yo by that time) but I knew I had to do it.

  One local elder came and visited me twice a few months after I stopped going to the KH. His argument was "If you don't come back, you'll die at the big A" (paraphrased). I told him if that was the only good reason to come back, I would rather die than return for purely selfish reasons...to save my own skin. He didn't know how to answer that one.

  That was way back in 1982, and I haven't been back since. Mom and all my relatives on her side of the family are JW's, so I still have to hear the brainwashing crap from time to time on the phone, but I manage to get past it. If JWs show up at my door, I just don't answer it. I have come to easily recognize the "JW shuffle" and know when they are walking down the street, so I just stay inside the house until they leave. If they leave litteratrash on my door, I just throw it away after they're goine.

  I long for the day when I never have to hear about this destructive religion again.
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  What Actually Made You Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  many of us needed time to get away from this religion.

  i took the course of fading and it's worked pretty well for me.

  after i saw sooooo many silly rules being enforced, i needed to get out!.

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  noolite

  I got out in 1982, after being born-in in '57. The biggest reason in my case was not the 1975 fiasco, as I got dunked in '76

  I think it was a number of reasons, but the biggest one had to be the lack of caring about others, and the hypocrisy that I saw all around me. I knew it was there all along, but it came to the forefront in that year, when I was down and out and needed help. A number of "brothers" in my cong paid lip service to helping me (indeed, one did help me for a bit but he was an exception). I had no place to live and no job, the recession was in full force and there were no jobs to be found. I was literally living in my car.

  No one helped me, no one cared. These were people that I had done everything in my power to help out when they needed help, I did many jobs and home repairs for them free and without reservation over many years...and they just abandoned me when I needed some help.

  That was the final straw for me. There is no love there, none, nada, zip. No one gives a damn about you if you are in dire straits. Lots of talk, but no action. I found out then just how real their "love" was. I got out and never went back. I wasn't DF but rather faded, it wasn't hard because they just basically forgot about me. Easiest fade ever, I guess

  Well, there's a lot more to my story but I don't want to bore everyone. In any case, I don't hate them. I pity them, because they don't know what true friendship is all about. It's all false platitudes and no real "works" (as they like to call it). I don't regret my decision to leave.
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  Those sweltering assemblies!

  by highdose in

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  anyone from the uk remember the assemblies at twickenham?

  cytrstal place?

  gillingham?.

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  Man in Tampa area threatens JW's with gun

  by noolite in

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  first post here, thought i'd start off with a news article from today (i used to live in tpa area, btw).

  man accused of threatening religious workers.

  spring hill deputies say two jehovah witnesses' quest for spreading peace and religion was interrupted by a man who pointed a gun and cursed at them as they approached his home.rudolf hellmold, 52, was charged with aggravated assault after deputies say he pointed a small silver handgun at the two victims while they were going door-to-door, according to a hernando county sheriff's office report.. the report showed that one of the victims told deputies that as they approached the house at 1355 osowaw boulevard, hellmold stood at a window near the front door, displayed a gun and yelled, "you (expletive) jehovah witnesses get the (expletive) off my property!".

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  noolite

  First post here, thought I'd start off with a news article from today (I used to live in TPA area, BTW)

  Man accused of threatening religious workers

  SPRING HILL — Deputies say two Jehovah Witnesses' quest for spreading peace and religion was interrupted by a man who pointed a gun and cursed at them as they approached his home.

  Rudolf Hellmold, 52, was charged with aggravated assault after deputies say he pointed a small silver handgun at the two victims while they were going door-to-door, according to a Hernando County Sheriff's Office report.

  The report showed that one of the victims told deputies that as they approached the house at 1355 Osowaw Boulevard, Hellmold stood at a window near the front door, displayed a gun and yelled, "You (expletive) Jehovah Witnesses get the (expletive) off my property!"

  The two then ran away and called the sheriff's office. They later identified Hellmold from a photo, according to the report.

  When confronted by deputies, Hellmold said he pointed his loaded silver Smith and Wesson handgun at the two victims because he was afraid after seeing them approach his home while one of the Jehovah Witnesses reached into a bag. He added they didn't identify themselves.

  Hellmold was taken to Hernando County Jail and his bail was set at $14,000.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39918237/ns/local_news-tampa_fl/