Zid, I love your theories on volcano Jehovah, it just makes so much sense!
the-illuminator81
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Guys!! Guys!!! Two Jehovah's Witnesses were just at my door!!
by ziddina inand of course, i had some fun with them... an older, brunette woman who obviously dyes her hair and could stand to lose a bit of weight, and a slim blonde teenage girl - probably around 15 - 17.... i started out by asking them if they knew how old the bible was.... .
(and unfortunately, i think i demonstrated that i wouldn't make a very good "undercover" bible study prospect... .
but they didn't even know how old - young - the bible was!!.
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The effect we are having on the Watchtower is HUGE
by jwfacts ini was inspired by a recent thread i know i aint gunna crumble the wt, but a girl can dream to look at the effect we as individuals are having on the watchtower society.. 3dogs1husband quoted a story to show that even helping only one person is worth it.. it is encouraging to note that the one person you may have helped has lead to millions being helped, due to the power of compounding growth.. compounding growth is well illustrated by the rice on a chessboard problem.
if you start with 1 grain of rice on square one, and double it to 2 on the second, 4 on the third, 8 on the fourth, by the last (64th) square there would be 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 grains of rice.. likewise, if you help one person out of the grip of the watchtower this year, then next year you help one more and they help one, in a few years that is going to have a formidable result on the number of jehovahs witnesses.
look at the following statistics.
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the-illuminator81
I wonder if they also track the effectiveness of their new bible study books.. like the bible teach book? Because if I look at the graph, that book isn't helping.
I think another avalanche effect is in families where more and more of the relatives are da'd, df'd or inactive. If your parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles etc. etc. are no longer going to the meetings the fear of shunning is a lot weaker.
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I have read Crisis Of Conscience! What next?
by TimothyT inso i read the book... i thought it was brilliant!.
any suggestions?.
timmy xxx.
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the-illuminator81
Releasing the Bonds by Steve Hassan
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Feet and Toes Research and Noo Lite
by Mad Sweeney inthis has been discussed in the district convention thread but i felt like all the "toes" info would be nice to see in one place.
[from the late 1950s through most of the 1970s the toes of the image meant all coexisting powers and governments at the time of the end].
35 but there was a final or completing part of the symbolic image, namely, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay.
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the-illuminator81
I wish someone at Bethel would study some history. No close election results before 1914? C'mon guys, it's like you're not even trying.
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Guys!! Guys!!! Two Jehovah's Witnesses were just at my door!!
by ziddina inand of course, i had some fun with them... an older, brunette woman who obviously dyes her hair and could stand to lose a bit of weight, and a slim blonde teenage girl - probably around 15 - 17.... i started out by asking them if they knew how old the bible was.... .
(and unfortunately, i think i demonstrated that i wouldn't make a very good "undercover" bible study prospect... .
but they didn't even know how old - young - the bible was!!.
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the-illuminator81
I don't know Zid, but as a fully in dub I would not be very impressed by your 'talk', I would be very interested and would probably have looked up some of those myths on google though. And that might've begun my waterfall of doubt. But it would not have made me question my faith. I would have just applied the "Satan is the source of all false religion, so it's no surprise that he has perverted the messiah story" excuse to stop any further thinking.
Of course for the girl that was at the door, if she wasn't 100% brainwashed, it might've worked a lot better on her than it would've on me.
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I think an undercover apostate was sitting near me at the meeting this afternoon
by hoser inthis brother was sitting near me today at the hall and when the public speaker started talking about the signs of the last days this guy started whispering something to his wife and kind of mocking the speaker in a quiet voice.
his wife looked really pissed off.. i've suspected this guy before by some of the stuff he's said and done and some of the #3 talks hes given he's gone off the assigned topic quite a bit.. during the wt study i was doing mics and i happened to walk by him several times.
his wt was on the floor and his bible was opened to topic for conversation at the end of the bible at the last days part.. a little while later his wife gave him the look and said something to him and he picked up his unprepared wt and followed along.. hoser.
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the-illuminator81
Sounds a lot like me when I was in my last active year, even down to the reaction of my wife when I whispered critical comments into her ear. I also gave some questionable talks, but the sheep were not able to detect my real reasoning and praised me for them. Eventually I did stop commenting at all though.
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Top Ten Pickup Lines at This Year's Convention
by JimmyPage in10. if i said you had a nice governing body would you hold it against me?.
9. let's overlap our generations if you know what i mean.. 8. what do you say we lose this great crowd?.
7. i want to be your faithful slave.. 6. tonight we're gonna party like it's 1974.. 7. your breasts are like towers.. 6. would you welcome a shepherding call?.
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1. Can you help remove the dam from my waterstream?
2. Can you please come with me so I don't stumble and have to tear my eyes out?
3. Before I got baptized I was a pornstar. They called me "Jim Longshaft". Now I only use my god-given talents in field service, but you could help change that.
4. Do you wanna pray together? No? Then let's have sex! (1 Corinthians 7:5)
And now for the one that really works:
5. Hi! I'm single!
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Watchtower Ectoplasm!!!
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower ectoplasm!!!
today i uploaded a new article showing watchtowers scientific evidence that ectoplasm is manifest demonic activity.
watchtower says its so.
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the-illuminator81
Just this morning I had a enormous ectoplasm discharge in the shower, I quickly washed it down the drain so my wife wouldn't find it.. or are we talking about something else here?
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Why can't you ask questions?
by ihadnoidea ini know that some will disagree on this, and say you can ask questions.
yet, i ask you to honestly think what would happen if you openly started asking questions on jw doctrine or evolution.
likely you would be made to feel like i did below if you started asking these questions to other jws.. .
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the-illuminator81
When you knocked on someone's door you felt that you had all the answers and were better than other religions because of it.
When you found an annoying householder that had some real tough questions you went back to research. Then after a few return visits you decided he just wants to ague and doesn't want to accept the truth. When you don't have the answers, you demonize the householder.
When you ask your local elder something you will get an unsatisfying answer. If you keep probing, you will be found spiritually weak and you are probably secretly masturbating, so the holy spirit is not guiding you and maybe even having a negative impact on the whole congregation. The elder is demonizing you so he won't have to think about your annoying questions.
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Considering Shunning my JW Friend
by InterestedOne ini had a discussion with my jw friend during which i asked her why a rational person should believe the world is run by demons.
in response, she questioned the existence of objective rationality.
she said that we should "agree to disagree.
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the-illuminator81
What you could ask is "What would convince you that the GB is not lead by the holy spirit?" or "What would convince you that JWs do not have the truth?"