Posts by the-illuminator81

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New Board members within the last 1 year.....

by stuckinamovement in

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i can't believe the amount of new posters this board is getting.

it seems as if every day there are at least 2 to 3.. if you are a new poster, what made you decide to stop lurking and start posting?

how many of us are there that have joined in the last year?.

the-illuminator81

When I decided I really wanted out, I made an account.

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April WT is out. Blood, FDS, moses & crazy stuff...

by bohm in

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the april wt is out, get it while you can.

what caught my attention was the first article.

some quotes:.

If there was a pillar of smoke and fire in front of the WTS HQ in Brooklyn and this was specifically foretold by Jesus as a sign that they are his chosen leadership for christians, I would definitely follow them. Sad reality is, they have absolutely no credentials to show they were chosen. In 1919 they were not awaiting their 'master' and were not providing the proper food at the proper time, so they could not have possibly been chosen.

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Continuity of the Bible - Start to Finish

by tyu in

i was asked in a previous topic whether i thought the bible had continuity in its thought/teaching from start to finish, from old to new testament.

you can argue from specific passages taken apart and out of context that the bible contradicts itself, but, all in all, there is one message-that of love, a father's love.

the bible is the story of a father who creates a family (beginning with adam and eve), but they break their bond with him.

the-illuminator81

So why would God then first lay down a law that forbids children to be punished for their fathers (Deuteronomy 24:16), but still have children inherit sin from their fathers and even threaten that he will bring punishment down to the fourth generation(Deuteronomy 5:9)?

Yes the bible contradicts itself even in the same book.

Or consider how God treats the Pharaoh and the Egyptians. He hardens the heart of the Pharaoh so that he can continue to punish the Egyptians. Can you call such a God just? Punish an entire country because he made their leader stubborn? (See Exodus 4:21, 7:3, 7:13, 9:12, 10:1, 10:20, 10:27, 11:10, 14:4, 14:8 & 14:17). What does the bible tell us? God is cruel and full of trickery. Liken this to a God who makes George W. Bush invade Iraq and then kills every firstborn in the USA because of it. It just makes no sense unless you're a bored shepherd in Sinai, making up stories at the campfire.

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How Would Jesus Announce HIs Second Coming to the Watchtower

by Band on the Run in

someone wrote something on another thread that i find puzzling.

how would jesus communicate with them?

do they hear an actual voice?

the-illuminator81

They knew it because a judge decided they had a right to freedom of religion and freed the leadership from prison. Jesus must've moved the heart of that judge to give Jehovah's Witnesses what every other religion in the USA also enjoys, yes a very very special sign from Jesus that the FDS was chosen in 1918/1919. The sign was so special and unique that it took more than ten years to be interpreted.

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Taking blood automatically disassociates you?

by lostsheep82 in

i don't get how you are disassociated if you take blood, if you are unrepentant according to the elders manual on pg 111. now do they have this same elders manual in bulgaria?.

also if you join a nonnuetral organization you dissasociate yourself automatically.

so i wonder if some poor janitor brother with his own business became an ngo with the un if he would have been cast out!

the-illuminator81

Fantastic, now where can I get some blood?

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Okay Moshe - we need some captions added to this great pic, again from 15 wt

by therevealer in

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the-illuminator81

"Are you sure you're not coming to the bar with the others? You've got to celebrate that big deal we had today!"

"No, I have to attend my biweekly brainwashing session or I will lose my reputation with the other zombies."

"Wow Deb, that sounds crazy!"

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"Hey Deb, wanna examine some scriptures? In my pants?"

"Not unless it's inspired by the holy spirit!"

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"Come on Deb you don't really believe all that bible crap now do you?"

"Go behind me Satan!"

"Wow I never figured you the kinky type!"

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"So have you and your hubby decided if you want to come over for dinner with me and the wife next sunday?"

"I can't associate with worldlies, you're a bad influence and you will all be destroyed at Armageddon anyway."

"Wow, consider yourself uninvited you freak."

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The stupid current Governing Body

by possible-san in

in my forum, an active japanese jw (my friend) taught me what he studied in the meeting recently.. that is the meeting on sunday (12/19) a few days ago.. in the material they studied on that day, it is written like this.. "the greek word translated honor in the bible conveys the sense of esteem, value, preciousness.

(luke 14:10).

yes, those we honor are precious, valuable to us.".

the-illuminator81

One error becomes two, and it snowballs every time you do that.

Before you know it, it snowballs into an organized religion.

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New Light on conducting meetings for Field Service

by Mad Sweeney in

according to the governing body letters blogspot, the february 2011 km establishes a prohibition on reading the daily text at meetings for field service.. no further details are given.

anyone have theirs and can post a scan or a summary?.

the-illuminator81

I can confirm our CO told us we no longer should do daily texts, but it was not very clear, kinda mumbled so it didn't look like an official guideline when he said it.

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