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  I need to know please.....

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  i've sent quite a few new pms on a number of subjects but had no responses.

  am i being ignored or is there some sort of it problem?

  i don't want to be a pest and nag....but if it is an it problem i'd like to get it fixed.

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  the-illuminator81

  Some peeps may be on vacation or maybe they don't like your PMs or they don't know that you can get a PM or simply don't notice it.
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  A concerned JW wrote "mistakes will happen."

  by InterestedOne in

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  in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.

  mistakes will happen.

  concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?

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  the-illuminator81

  Too bad I wasn't alive yet in 1974 so I could not take up the brothers' excellent advice to sell off all my property in the short time remaining!
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  Continuing to draw the line between cults and DESTRUCTIVE cults

  by sabastious in

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  2. beliefs

  the easiest place to start understanding a spectral concept, such as cults, is to indentify it's lowest and highest points rather than starting somewhere in the middle.. so lets call the lowest point of the cult spectrum benign and the highest point destructive.. a good example of an extremely benign cult would be the following of the not so popular 80s movie: the princess bride of which i consider myself a member (no documentation .

  if you were to come up to me and claim to be part of the princess bride's cult following i could figure out whether you are a true member by asking you a few questions.

  based on your answers i could then conclude that you either meet the criteria or that you do not.

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  the-illuminator81

  Instead of cult, you could also use high control group. When a JW hears you describe them as a group, they feel like you think they're not important. When you say cult, they like it because it makes them feel persecuted. But they don't like being called a group at all. Doesn't make them feel persecuted, just redundant.

  Also, since the literature never talks about what to do when somebody says you're in a high control group, they don't know how to answer.
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  How Jehovah's Witnesses Meet their Match SPIEGEL INTERNATIONAL article

  by Eclectic in

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  2. beliefs

  i hope i do not repeat topic.

  i just read this interesting article here:.

  http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,775520,00.html.

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  the-illuminator81

  Nice to see some reporters not to lazy to fall for the JW spin
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  Are you enjoying your REST? Well, the Governing Body SAID you would!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses: reliable, spirit-led, trustworthy and accurate in their teachings?.

  or: unreliable, human led, untrustworthy and inaccurate in their guesswork?.

  you decide!

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  the-illuminator81

  I was born in '82 so according to this Awake I was born in paradise! Awesome!
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  What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Watchtower Society?

  by MrDarkKnight in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in a number of different threads comments have been made about the motives of the gb and the wtbts.

  it made me think, what is their ultimate goal?

  what is their end game?.

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  the-illuminator81

  Once an organization becomes large enough they all share the same two goals:

  1. Protect their existence

  2. Growth

  Governments, religion, corporate entities all share this. And they will do whatever they can to reach both goals, and are only stopped when public opinion threatens their growth or existence.
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  Opinion-Is This Clear Evidence that Jehovah's Holy Spirit is with The Watchtower?

  by DavinciCodeBreaker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was having a discussion with an aquaintance about if there was evidence that the watchtower has jehovah's holy spirit.

  he said, "given the fact that no other organization has won more supreme court cases than jehovah's witnesses to protect their religious freedom in north america and abroad is unrefutable evidence of jehovah's blessing by means of his holy spirit".. your thoughts?.

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  the-illuminator81

  Such typical witness rhetoric.. find a million things wrong with the borg, come up with some arbitrary criterium for the 'one true religion' and then stop all other thought with it. Right up there with the "but who else would we go to" dead end.
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  Would the world be a better place without any religion?

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  i like to think so.. although much good can come from religious belief, i feel that the bad out weighs the good.

  and therefore i would rather see it all gone.. if tomorrow, all people with any belief in any religion were removed from earth to meet their maker in the afterlife they so much want, it may be for the best.. how much better atheists would get on would be interesting to see.

  shirley atheists couldn't make a worse job than religionists have..

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  the-illuminator81

  Religion is not required to have ethical, moral, responsible and good behaviour, even though most people think so. So yes, toss it out of the window, there are no benefits.
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  JWs always deny the information control

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  an active witness on fb just told me that they are taught to "always question what we are taught" and use not only the wt publications, but any research materials, and come to a conclusion about what they find!

  this is not what i've heard from you guys!

  does she go to some unusual-type kingdom hall, or is she mesing with my mind?.

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  the-illuminator81

  They sometimes do. They also condemn all worldly literature as coming from Satan. And when you do find out that something's not right, you are to shut up or get disfellowshipped. Most witnesses don't have the time or energy to do research outside of the WTS treadmill.
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  God blamed satan?

  by Joey Jo-Jo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ex-15:3 the lord is a man of war: the lord is his name.

  nasb.

  ex-32:14 then the lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

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  the-illuminator81

  Satan made me do it!

  Eve made me do it!