Posts by VampireDCLXV

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Keeping your nose in the POO

by Terry in

jw
friends

human misery: the default setting in the universe.. .

we think "everything is okay" is the norm and it isn't.

not by a long shot.. .

VampireDCLXV

... On the other hand, if "only god" can solve some problems - then we don't need to bother trying to solve our problems ourselves, do we? We don't need to bother understand one another or the complex nature of the world.

So true. Despite what hard-core religionists claim, we can't lean on God for everything and nothing is pre-determined. I'm not into throwing out the baby with the bathwater though. We don't need religions telling us what God is or isn't. As the old saying goes, 'God helps those who help themselves'. I'll leave it to each individual to figure out what to believe about the universe...

V665

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The offical Screaming thread for those 'still in' or with family 'still in'

by pirata in

jw
friends

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

that feels better.

thanks all for listening to things that i cannot say to my family or 'friends', the very people that i should be able to talk about anything about, without fear of being labelled as an apostate and shunned like an amharet..

VampireDCLXV

V665, the ones in your posts #925 and #946 are really powerful.

Small little expressions of what passes as humour in my sick, twisted inner world...

V665

PS: Nice one Josie!

19

Keeping your nose in the POO

by Terry in

jw
friends

human misery: the default setting in the universe.. .

we think "everything is okay" is the norm and it isn't.

not by a long shot.. .

VampireDCLXV

Always? Sounds awfully absolute. Did you mean absolutely always?

Since when has the world not been a mix of good and bad? True, whether something is good or bad is only perceived by humans. For anyone to say that at any time the world was completely good or completely bad sounds absolutist to me. Yes, if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is around to witness the event, it still happened. There is evidence that remains to be found long term if one knows how to find it. It's the search for cause and effect. That's part of being realistic...

Todays red herring brought to you by VampireDCLXV...

V665

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If you felt/feel that you had/have good, close "friends" in the org, how did/does it feel to just give them up?

by Crisis of Conscience in

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friends

this is my biggest dilema.

although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.

i love people!.

VampireDCLXV

The short answer is: by and large, they were never true friends to begin with. If a "friendship" entirely depends on a continuing loyalty to an organization, it's a fraud. My mom keeps telling me that people in my old congo miss me but I don't really miss them. I'm trying to make a circle of real friends on the outside now.

Family, on the other hand...

V665

26

Are you feeling a little fat?

by cyberjesus in

why is it so hard for some people loose weight?

look at this bbc documentary, i know many dont like science much but hey, its ok i promise it wont attack your beliefs.... well maybe some.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-a0ihsdca.

VampireDCLXV

Oh, the fact that you posted here makes me so tempted to say something, BP...

V665

(Disclaimer: VampireDCLXV has recently had a full physical and has been declared slender and in good health...)

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The offical Screaming thread for those 'still in' or with family 'still in'

by pirata in

jw
friends

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

that feels better.

thanks all for listening to things that i cannot say to my family or 'friends', the very people that i should be able to talk about anything about, without fear of being labelled as an apostate and shunned like an amharet..

VampireDCLXV

V665

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Me and my story... Issues, issues, issues

by bottleofwater in

my parents learned the truth when i was about 2 years old or so and they got baptized when i was 4.. they came from ukraine from the former soviet union and i was born months after they came to brooklyn.. they started studying with a sister who was american and joined the first russian group in brooklyn.. my brother was born when i was 5. we moved to staten island when i was 8 or 9.. ever since i was 14 or 15, i realized an attraction to guys.. of course, i kept on putting it off as a phase or an "everyone feels this way" excuse.. and yes, i had lots of crushes on guys, but i didn't tell others because it was hard to face the facts.. around 18 years of age, we were having our family study and my dad said that if a person even has gay thoughts then they can't be a pioneer, etc.. and he was an elder and a coordinator of the body of elders.. i got depressed and cried for days and eventually this got me to feel the need to tell someone about it.. i told my 14 year old brother (the other younger one is 7) about it because he keeps his mouth shut all the time.. he didn't react at all really.

eventually i felt like i had to tell my pioneer mom about it (by the way, i've been pioneering since 18 years of age due to knowing that that would be the only reason why my dad would pay for my college education).. she reacted with mixed feelings of denial, also attacking me and making it look like i'm disgusting, immoral, this and that.... eventually i told someone my age about this in my congregation, as he was also a neighbor of ours.

he was a bit more feminine acting, though i wasn't sure if he was gay or not (though the sisters had their rumors) (i'm more of the masc type it seems).