it was 11 days after i received the email from my sister, informing me that she is no longer going to communicate with me.. i was never a jw, so i don't fully comprehend this decision, nor do i understand the games jw's play.. i talked to my mom yesterday, and she (baptized within last year) is getting more and more fed up with the nonsense.
she has been trying to get everyone to come together, and she is seeing more and more extreme behavior from my sister and her husband.
my mom is blaming my brother in law, but my sister has clearly spoken up and said she is speaking for herself also.
Hi Faithful Witness, Considering how your mother feels about conditional love, do your parents have movie night? How about sending them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDwXYACfmM
The movie is in Danish with English sub-titles. It is actually a very balanced portrail of life as a JW. You could ask her if the movie portrays how JWs act?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
am i the only one that finds it funny that the organization's campaign this month is to offer a printed magazine that is simply an ad for a website?
what's more is they have printed close to 50 mil copies which will be delivered by an army of volunteers who drive minivans and knock on the doors of empty houses repeatedly until they find someone at home...... can you imagine facebook going door to door to spread the word about how awesome their site is?.
I wonder if the WTBTS will be changing their business model to include internet advertizing revenue.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
i dont see anyone else mentioning it, so i will: last night at the service meeting there was a letter read, from the most holy 8.. a request for more workers!
and this one with new addendums!
i am pulling from memory, but pretty sure i have it right (feel free to correct me if someone else hears the letter too).. .
Hi Tech49, Be happy that you saw TTATT, instead of continuing to be victimized by the WTBTS.
I know that you are probably going through an emotional roller-coaster because of the WTBTS, but at least you are working to be mentally free from the WTBTS. Rant on!!
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
am i the only one that finds it funny that the organization's campaign this month is to offer a printed magazine that is simply an ad for a website?
what's more is they have printed close to 50 mil copies which will be delivered by an army of volunteers who drive minivans and knock on the doors of empty houses repeatedly until they find someone at home...... can you imagine facebook going door to door to spread the word about how awesome their site is?.
I hope that everyone asks JWs if they can give them something in return and carry a Sharpie or pre-printed, permanent labels with QR codes with them. After overcoming JWs objectiosn of not being able to accept religious material, write www.jwfacts.com, www.freedomofmind.com, or some other reputable website or attach labels on the advertising and then hand back the flyers to the JWs.
Worst case is that the JWs will run away and may never bother you again. Best case is that they will not be able to count placing the flyer and may even visit the website.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
P.S. - If JWs do a drop and run, write the website on the flyer and then paper the local KH's front door with flyers.
i apologize if this topic was already covered, i didn't have time to look thru several pages of posts.... after several years of fighting their ban in russia.
russian court declares jw's literature extremist:.
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140113/186483571/russian-court-declares-jehovahs-witness-brochures-extremist.html?fb_action_ids=530487500391762&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5b1377130229215916%5d&action_type_map=%5b%22og.recommends%22%5d&action_ref_map=%5b%5d.
I hope that the Russian government just takes away any charitible perks (i.e., non-profit tax status/government funding) from the WTBTS instead of banning its literature, as well as all organizations that can be classified as dangerous cults. It would be a waste of government resources to ban the literature.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
just got a call from my daughter that she got word that the jw honeywagon (literature stand) has set up in the university she teaches at.
one (and there are many) of the reasons we left was due to the stance on higher education, she was persecuted by the elders for attending the very university they are now set up in.
my daughter eventually got a masters degree overseas and now teaches at the same unversity, is self sufficent and will not have to eke out some pittance of a living while fighting a very delbilitating health condition.
Hi Simon Morley, Your daughter deserves a and a BIG "GO GIRL!!"
If she cannot educate her university's officials about the WTBTS's stance on education as well as that the WTBTS is a dangerous cult, I hope that she can at least get the university to allow BIG posters with www.jwfacts.com and www.freedomofmind.com with QR codes and with Raymond Franz's books to be located adjacent to the cart. A couple of well placed posters might make the JWs run away.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
supposing i can pull off moving to the other city without the elders successfully finding me and forcing me to go to a jc or something.... should i ever tell my mom ttatt?
or should i let sleeping dogs lie?
it is extremely unlikely that dad will tell her ttatt... he prefers, 99% of the time, to not say anything rather than fight.
Hi ILoveTTATT, I love your passion, convictions, and determination.
Except for your parents raising you as a JW, it sounds like you had a very idylic childhood being raised by your parents. From stories of other JWN members they were not as lucky as you.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
supposing i can pull off moving to the other city without the elders successfully finding me and forcing me to go to a jc or something.... should i ever tell my mom ttatt?
or should i let sleeping dogs lie?
it is extremely unlikely that dad will tell her ttatt... he prefers, 99% of the time, to not say anything rather than fight.
Hi ILoveTTATT, Make a plan with your Dad to help your Mom to critically think for herself. Help you Dad to learn how to confront without being harsh or abusive first. Has he read any of Steve Hassan's books? If he can critically think for himself, he may be able to help your Mom to critically think for herself? You and your Dad's plan, can be as simple as:
The bottom line is that once you leave your parents home you will have less chances to help you Mom to critically think for herself and it becomes your Dad's problem.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.
most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.
there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.
BTTT
ILoveTTATT - Article on blood is now... 2/30 pages translated... lol
Hi ILoveTTATT, Just words of encouragement to keep up the good work!! Did Simon accept you volunteering to moderate for a Spanish JWN forum?
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
as a little background, my dad became a jw in 1980 i think, went to bethel, married my mom in 86' went back for another year and then i came along... he worked in the auto repair shop at bethel while he was there, and upon leaving, continued working in this field.
my whole life they have been the type of jw parents that tell you how you will never get to high school, never graduate it, never get married in this system, never have children in this system etc.. i say this to illustrate the end is just around the corner attitude they have always had, probably because they fully bought/buy into the hype at the conventions/wt articles.
my father has no plan in place for retirement, and he is physically slowing down doing such hard laborious work.
Hi BU2B, DITTO what other posters wrote about talk with your wife. They are your parents, so your wife may be thinking that you need to take the lead and either nix the idea of them staying with your family or agree to it. Does your wife like your parents? What would bother your wife if your parents moved in with you?
Do what you need to do to help your wife to critically think for herself.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
