Posts by ABibleStudent

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Advice on children

by Apostating in

my ex-wife got married in december last year.

so our visting arrangement with my children has changed.

there was a misunderstanding in our visiting arrangment, we agreed on that they would spend the weekends (once in two weeks) with me they would stay until sunday.

Hi Apostating, Always do something fun with your kids on the weekends that you have them so they will not want to go to meetings and help your children to critically think for themselves. If your ex-wife wants to take them to the meetings, tell your ex-wife to go to a congregation with meeting times at 4:00 PM or after.

If you want to be mean to your ex-wife, give your kids sugary treats right before they leave so that they have plenty of energy for the meetings. LOL

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Avoid or call them back?

by Angus Beef in

daughter missed a call from an elder tonight...we've missed meetings for about a month now.

she is dating a worldly guy and i'm sure someone has seen them together.

makes us nervous and with us being fairly new to the fading facet... should she call or avoid.

ABibleStudent

Hi Angus Beef, Why do you want to play by the WTBTS's rules? Avoid meeting with elders. Block phone calls from elders. Do not answer elder's questions.

If the elders do contact your daughter by dropping by unexpectedly, thank them for their convern, ask them to call before stopping by unannounced, and to tell all the elders that you will contact them if you need any help.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Should I meet with the elders?

by winnie12 in

so i posted my story somewhere on this board but long story short i have been expressing my doubts to my mom who is a jw.

i have been fading since december 2013 and went to a sunday meeting for the first time maybe two weeks ago.

i went only because i wanted to use the library that my hall has which had books published by the society from the early 1900's.

ABibleStudent

Hi winnie12, When in doubt it is better to ask questions than to provide answers. Let the elders do all the work, but phrase your questions with what did Jesus Christ say or do. Be prepared to have some rebuttel questions, because JWs like to take scriptures out of context or add their own WTBTS thought-stopping platitude when they start to feel cognitive dissonnance.

If you need help in disguising questions for JWs, read exJW Psychology 102--How to Ask a Question When Questions Aren't Allowed by Billy the Ex-Bethelite.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

i am curious about your ideas about:.

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, I'm glad that you are more at peace. I'm sorry that your father has to deal with your mom's cult persona in all its gory (not to be confused with glory).

Hopefully, you and your dad can still get together and have fun together.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

i am curious about your ideas about:.

ABibleStudent

Hi ILoveTTATT, Are you feeling less stressed yet? Did you talk with a counselor?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Ran into JW's manning a table/booth at the beach.

by PaintedToeNail in

jw
friends

came across 2 of these 'booths' in 2 days.

one at the int'l airport we landed at (hubby asked directions from them, they were knowledgable about the airport and very nice) and the other at a pier on the beach...hubby had to race over and say hi to them and i was standing there.

the 'brother' was an arrogant boob.

ABibleStudent

Priceless rebuttal PaintedToeNail . I wonder if he can put 2 and 2 together to see how much time he wasted at Bethel and now standing in a suit at the beach.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off

by Faithful Witness in

recently, i received this email from my jw sister: .

while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .

i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.

ABibleStudent

Hi Faithful Witness, DITTO what other posters wrote about just write that you love her or let her go for a few months. IMHO an email with lots of pictures of you and your family having fun and writing wishing you were there would probably have more impact on her. Please remember that she is probably being heavily influenced by her husband.

If your mother still has doubts, help her more than your sister to critically think for herself because it might have a more significant impact.

If you still want to confront your sister, I would recommend writing I love you, she seems more judgemental than when you were growing up, and ask how would she feel if you would stop talking with her for giving you presents just because it is a sunny day. Where in the Bible did Jesus Christ say to shun or not associate with people just because they were tax collectors or Samaritans?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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its time i say howdy

by lildev in

thank u for all who post on here jwfacts and ex jw utubers.

u have really helped me to see the truth about the truth.

i da`d last summer.

ABibleStudent

Welcome lildev, You are one of the lucky ones to realize that the WTBTS was using BITE control techniques to victimize JWs and were able to get out.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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You're Invited: 100 Year Anniversary Party- 10/1/2014?

by 4thgen in

have you gotten your invitation from the wt to their big 100 year blow-out to celebrate the reign of christ?

it should be a very swank affair, especially with all the billions of dollars they have on hand.

it should be a doozy!

ABibleStudent

IMHO I think all JWN members should plan on meeting across the street from the WTBTS HQ in Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, NY to celebrate 100+ years of WTBTS failed predictions starting from 1878. Lets throw a party, because the WTBTS sure won't!!

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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I could do with some help please?

by chrisuk in

so the elder i studied with called round last wednesday.

i didn't tell him i'd lost my faith, i just said there are a number of reasons i wouldn't be able to return to either my studies or the meetings.

he asked me whar 2 or 3 of my reasons are so we could discuss them.. my reply: 1 i think all christians should partake of the bread and wine.

ABibleStudent

Hi chrisuk, Ask simple questions that make the elder provide the answers. For reason #1, ask the elder where in the Bible did Jesus Christ say that only the annointed could partake in the bread and wine? For reasons #2 & #3, find out what the elder believes and then ask him simple questions to prove his position using the Bible.

Personally I would learn how to overcome the common WTBTS's thought stopping platitudes as well as asking questions of your own. When in doubt a JW will always use a thought-stopping platitude to help them rationalize why they blindly follow the GB and WTBTS. I personally would ask the elder how the WTBTS is following God's Greatest Commandments in MT 22:34-40 and avoiding committing the only unforgivable sin in MT 12:22-37. The latest WTBTS propaganda almost makes God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit irrelevant as long as you blindly follow the GB. And, how can shunning every be justified through the teachings and example of Jesus Christ?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert