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  its time i say howdy

  by lildev in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  thank u for all who post on here jwfacts and ex jw utubers.

  u have really helped me to see the truth about the truth.

  i da`d last summer.

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  ABibleStudent

  Welcome lildev, You are one of the lucky ones to realize that the WTBTS was using BITE control techniques to victimize JWs and were able to get out.

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  You're Invited: 100 Year Anniversary Party- 10/1/2014?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  have you gotten your invitation from the wt to their big 100 year blow-out to celebrate the reign of christ?

  it should be a very swank affair, especially with all the billions of dollars they have on hand.

  it should be a doozy!

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  ABibleStudent

  IMHO I think all JWN members should plan on meeting across the street from the WTBTS HQ in Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, NY to celebrate 100+ years of WTBTS failed predictions starting from 1878. Lets throw a party, because the WTBTS sure won't!!

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  I could do with some help please?

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the elder i studied with called round last wednesday.

  i didn't tell him i'd lost my faith, i just said there are a number of reasons i wouldn't be able to return to either my studies or the meetings.

  he asked me whar 2 or 3 of my reasons are so we could discuss them.. my reply: 1 i think all christians should partake of the bread and wine.

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  ABibleStudent

  Hi chrisuk, Ask simple questions that make the elder provide the answers. For reason #1, ask the elder where in the Bible did Jesus Christ say that only the annointed could partake in the bread and wine? For reasons #2 & #3, find out what the elder believes and then ask him simple questions to prove his position using the Bible.

  Personally I would learn how to overcome the common WTBTS's thought stopping platitudes as well as asking questions of your own. When in doubt a JW will always use a thought-stopping platitude to help them rationalize why they blindly follow the GB and WTBTS. I personally would ask the elder how the WTBTS is following God's Greatest Commandments in MT 22:34-40 and avoiding committing the only unforgivable sin in MT 12:22-37. The latest WTBTS propaganda almost makes God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit irrelevant as long as you blindly follow the GB. And, how can shunning every be justified through the teachings and example of Jesus Christ?

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  WT Mantras / Thought Stoppers

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been thinking about how the gb controls jws through the use of short phrases or scripture quotes (often partial quotes ripped out of context).. think of the sound-bite responses you know jws are going to give you in response to points you try to make to them.. ones that come to my mind immediately are:.

  -- "the light gets brighter and brighter.".

  -- "who, then, is the faithful and discreet slave?".

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  ABibleStudent

  Identifying thought stoppers is good, and identifying simple questions to ask back is better.

  Thought Stopper -- "Where else can we go?

  Counter question - "Don't you mean to whom shall we go? Have you read John 6:60-70? All you have to do is follow Jesus Christ's teachings and examples instead of the GB and the Watchtower."

  Anyone else want to play the counter question game to thought stoppers?

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  The real reason behind the Revised New World Tranlation

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  usually i'm spending most of the meeting reading through the bible .so my time spend there is not entirely lost .i used to enjoy how in the old nwt you could look up a verse and then following the side references i could get a pretty good picture on that verse.usually the explanation would be contrary to the official jw doctrine.last sunday meeting i opened the revised nwt to do exactly the same thing ,and then it hit me !

  the revised nwt has removed more that half of the references used in the previous version.what more the references they left only lead you to verses that support jw doctrine.this a watered down version of the previous edition.what do you think ?could it be that this is part of their continous plan to dumb down all remaining jws?.

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  ABibleStudent

  The WTBTS is a dangerous cult!! The "I" in BITE control stands for information control, so it makes perfect sense that the WTBTS will only print references in the new NWT to support the WTBTS's doctrines as well as alter the translations to support their doctrines and/or keep the WTBTS out of litigation.

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  What happens with a JW commits adultery and his wife is pregnant

  by Jessc8877 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  im not a jw but my recently x boyfriend is.

  he and were dating for the past 6 years.

  i found out he had gotten married to a jw in the last 1and a half of our relationship.

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  ABibleStudent

  Welcome Jessc8877 , Move on with your life and be grateful that you are no longer dating a JW and an A$$hole.

  Your exBF sounds like he would lie, lie, lie if you did confront him in front of the elders or his wife. Also, depending on his status in the congregation the elders might try to protect him. Elders serve the WTBTS so it is alright to hide a JW's transgressions if a JW is willing to blindly serve the WTBTS and victimize other JWs.

  By the way have you watched the following video? It is a good description of life as a JW and it shows how an adulterous father is willing to shun his daughter so that he can be an elder again.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIDwXYACfmM

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  Born-in memories, etc this is my first post, guys ;-)

  by ThunderStruck52 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i have decided to jump in and for the first time and share some of my random memories that seem to have been floating around my mind more and more lately.

  mostly if all the weird anxiety i experience from time to time is related to it.

  i guess that would be a different topic to post!.

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  ABibleStudent

  Welcome ThunderStruck52 , I'm sorry that the WTBTS made your life more difficult.

  Look on the positive side! You did break free of the WTBTS's BITE control fairly young and you can go to college if you want. It just will be more difficult now. Have you read any threads of former JWs going to college in their thirties and forties for inspiration?

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  personal study to help some one learn TTATT

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  using only the wts publlications what would be a curriculum or study plan you would use to get someone to research ttatt?.

  1914-1919. sodom and gomorrah resurrected.

  generations mt.

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  ABibleStudent

  Since JWs have the "Truth" (i.e., answers), just ask JWs simple questions and let them talk themselves into TTATT. All you have to do is don't let JWs change subjects when they cannot answer your questions. Always go back to the questions that JWs don't want to answer.

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

  anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

  i am curious about your ideas about:.

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  ABibleStudent

  Hi ILoveTTATT, Would your health plan cover talking to Steve Hassan or one of his coaches by phone [617 396-4638]? Can you contact Steve Hassan through his website http://freedomofmind.com/Contact/index.php and ask if he knows of a cult exit counselor near you?

  You really need to talk with someone who understands what you are going through so that you can control your emotions. Even going away for a weekend to enjoy life and not think about the WTBTS might help you.

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert
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  exJW Psychology 105--"Are You Ready for The Big A?"

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know how many others have gotten this question that i got recently.

  i wonder if it was the co that thought this would be a great question to try to reactivate someone like me:.

  at the time, i was kinda blindsided by the question and gave just an okay response.

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  ABibleStudent

  Hi Billy the Ex-Bethelite, Why not ask a JW, "Why do you feel that it will be this year more than when WTBTS predicted it would be in 1975?" Listen to them for a while until you can ask them more questions, like what you wrote about of getting an education so that you do not have to survive on solely Social Security.

  I wonder what regrets that JWs who sold their houses or quit their jobs in the 1970's have now, if they are alive?

  Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

  Robert