when asked about his religion & belief, he would tell people that his family are jws, and he used to be one.
but still he is very much against christmas and birthdays.
he seems to have no issue with new year.
Hi UBM101, If you and your husband don't talk about and/or argue about the WTBTS, your husband's feelings can fester and cause future problems with your marriage. If your husband cannot talk about the WTBTS, at least ask him about his feelings without talking about the WTBTS.
peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
so i found out last week that a coworker of mine has been studying with jehovah's witnesses.
i think she said she had been studying for a long time and has been to plenty of meetings.
her grandmother is a jw apparently.
Hi MrFreeze, Be kind and respectful to her and ask her if she feels that you will die in the Big A. If she says no, ask her why the WTBTS teaches that you will and JWs must blindly believe the same way. If she says yes, ask her if she can justify her beliefs using the Bible.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
many jws don't know the basic doctrines we all use to debate the clergy with.. .
jws don't know the bible, the know a few proof-texts but can't handle the bible like the witnesses of 1950s-1990s, what happened?.
the caliber of the new elders is horrible when compared with the elders of 1950s-1990s, they don't know how to use their bible, they are turning towards orgnazational minor details while ignoring the bible and gospel message.. .
I can only hope that soon it will turn into an avalanche of stupidity so that fewer non-JWs will be indoctrinated into the WTBTS.
Unfortunately, I have seen for myself that JWs prey on the most vunerable of society to gain new recruits with their love bombing.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
have been going to a few meetings to support my kids that have to go with their mother.
i knew it would be a powerful lesson for them to see how these loving people treat their father who da'd a while ago.
couple of elders tried to corner me the 2nd or 3rd time i went to remind me that i cant talk to anyone.... i however reminded them that i am not df'd and i can talk to whomever i want to.
Congratulations pbrow!! Teach your kids how to critically think for themselves by confounding and confusing the elders by example.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
if the catholic church doesn't want to support abortions in any way, i don't think she should be penalized by the government.. your thoughts?
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minimus - Do JWs recieve government funding?
It depends on the country. In the USA government does provide funding for medical treatment for poor people. Also, donors can deduct their donations to religious organizations from their taxes, which is a form of government funding of religions.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
hey i joined this thread recently and thought this was a good way to introduce myself.
i am 15, still going to school and i live in the uk.
a good chunk of my mum's side of the family are jws.
Welcome DuvanMuvan, Your Mum sounds very "Spiritually Weak" (still thinking) to have married a non-JW and to give you so much latitude. You are very lucky.
I wonder if your Mum is just trying to placate her JW parents and/or family. Is your Mum baptized?
If you don't want to be a JW, just ask your Mum to help prove WTBTS doctrine that you are having trouble with using the Bible. Ask lots of questions of your Mum in an innocent way using information from www.jwfacts.com and/or asking for help from JWN members, and don't talk until your mother answers the last question asked. If you want to learn more about how to talk with a person who has been indoctrinated by BITE control techniques, please watch the following video: Strategic Interactive Approach explained 2003 (1:23:23)
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
she was there again this morning, i saw her as i walked past.
with the same sister, doing a study.. "you can lead a horse to water" etc......
Hi quellycatface, The important thing to remember is that you cared enough to help her. What she does with the information that you gave her is her choice.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
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we asked this person if it could be aqbout the terminology change and they said that was already read last week...... we remember the last time they did this.
got everyone all excited thinking the big "a" was coming and all it was about, was the literature would now be donated instead of charging for it.. .
My guesses: Distributing flyers to direct people to www.jw.org, discontinueing printing of the simple editions of the Watchtower/Awake!, donate more, and/or asking for more volunteers to help build the new HQ because the end is soooo sooon.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
since finding the meetings too morally repugnant to attend (coupla months now) i have.
been reaquainting myself with the joys of sat morn's at home.. imagine my disappointment to find the group study overseer and his wife pulling up out front.
the thought bubble over my head read "oh poo, poo and double poo!!".
Welcome sparrowdown, It is better to critically think for yourself instead of being fooled into slaving for the WTBTS. Hopefully, your wife will start to critically think for herself one day and thank you for being such a deep thinker.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert
hey guys i am new to the whole forum thing (long time reader, first time postererer) and i wanted to get some other opinions on something that has bothered me ever since i first became a jehovah's witness.. i was always taught at the kingdom hall that friends inside the orginisation were the only ones i could count on and that the ones out of it (mainly at school) were just being controlled by satan to trick me into leaving the religion.. however, i always found it to be the opposite.
my "worldly"friends were all accepting of my religion (back when i was ok with being a jw) and are the only ones i have really opened up to about wanting to leave.
the only things i have in common with the other teenagers in my hall (3 boys, 3 girls) are that we've all been raised in the truth and... well that's it.. i was just wondering if anyone else found the same thing when they were a teenaged jw or if anyone still in my age finds the same thing..
Welcome DuvanMuvan, Are you still living at home? What are your plans to become financially self-sufficient to reduce being pressured to get dunked? As long as you don't get dunked, your family may not shun you in the future - NO gaurantees though.
Although JWfacts is an awesome website about the WTBTS, you may want to visit www.freedomofmind.com to help you learn how to communicate better with JWs so that you can avoid being shunned. Reading Steve Hassan's books (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visiting his website, and/or watching his videos, should help you communicate better with JWs' authentic personas to minimize the possibility of being shunned by JW relatives and friends.
Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,
Robert.
