Posts by ABibleStudent

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Hello - mentally out, physically in...

by Bluefluff in

i have been lurking for a while but was encouraged to sign up by a user on the ex jw reddit forum.

i'm a still in jw but i've been mentally out for about two months.

i'm an ms and i'm also gay so i have two lots of 'coming out' to do very soon!.

ABibleStudent

Welcome Bluefluff, DITTO what other members have written - lots of good advice. Were you born into the WTBTS?

If you were a born-in, have you read any books by cult-exit counselors, like Steve Hassan (i.e., "Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and Beliefs"), visited his website www.freedomofmind.com, and/or watched his FREE videos on his website? A person can leave a dangerous cult like the WTBTS, but the WTBTS's BITE control indoctrination is very powerful. You might heal faster after learning about overcoming WTBTS induced phobias and how to overcome you using thought-stopping platitudes

Are you thinking about getting more education/training so that you qualify for a better paying career?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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hello

by fakefading in

hello my fellow "apostates".

just wanted to say hi.

i'm still in the borg but mentally out.

ABibleStudent

Welcome fakefading, I wish you the best to help your JW family to critically think for themselves. I hope that you continue to post on JWN to vent your frustrations so that your JW family does not become suspicious of your beliefs.

With a little planning on your part, you have many options to enjoy your life with your wife:

Read Steve Hassan's books ("Combatting Cult Mind Control", "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves", and (his latest book) "Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults and beliefs"), visit his website www.freedomofmind.com, and/or watch Steve Hassan's videos on his website to help your JW family to critically think for themselves.
Ask your wife simple questions to learn more about how she thinks and feels about her childhood feelings/experiences, as well as her authentic persona's feelings. Your objective should be to learn more about your wife's authentic persona and how to help it overcome your wife's cult persona.
Help your wife to meet non-JWs, who she might share common interests.
Encourage your wife to have non-JW and time consuming hobbies that might help her to meet non-JWs.
Help your wife to use the internet. Your objective would be to help her learn how to be a smarter consumer such as to find better and cheaper accomodations when attending DC's. Also, by staying away from other JWs it might help her authentic persona to control her cult persona.
Hold home Bible studies with your wife to help her to recognize how the Pharisees and Sadducees used BITE control techniques to victimize Jews and how Jesus Christ felt about it. DO NOT draw parrallels between the WTBTS and the Pharisees and Sadducees. Let your wife do that on her own.
Research how to overcome WTBTS thought-stopping platitudes that your wife uses. Posting on JWN and reading www.jwfacts.com may gve you ideas.
Talk to your wife about getting additional education/training that will help you to provide greater financial security for your family, as well as miss more meetings.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Russian Parliament Approves Military Action in the Crimea

by ABibleStudent in

why did russian president vladimir putin ask the russian parliament to approve using military forces to keep the peace in the crimea, instead of asking the un?

why did the russian parliment pass a law approving military force instead of asking for the un to send peace keeping forces to the crimea (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?.

is russia spiralling into a totalitarian dictatorship like germany in the 1930's and the soviet union from 1920's - 1990's with information control and coercive tactics?

ABibleStudent

A perspective of a Russian speaking Ukrainian about Putin's actions Opinion: A divided Ukraine? Think again.

What I thought was interesting is how Russia has supposedly brought Russians into Crimea to protest in support of the Russian military and has used news broadcast to influence Russian speakers opinions. I wonder how much it costs to import pro-Russian protestors. If elections were held in Crimea, I wonder how free they would be and what Russia would do to win.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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New Article: Jehovah's Witnesses a Study in Hypocrisy

by daringhart13 in

would love your feedback!.

http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/jehovahs-witnesses-a-study-in-hypocrisy .

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ABibleStudent

Hi daringhart13, You wrote a very heartfelt and well-written message.

I only make the following comments to hopefully reduce how JWs will focus on minor errors and not see how truthful your message is.

I feel that where you wrote:

“Please note: The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society openly claims to be God's only representative” it should be changed to “Please note: The leaders of the Watchtower . . . “
“For those that question that authority, they are banished from the organization, including family and friends.” It shoud be changed to “ . . . they are banished from the organization, and shunned (as if dead) by JW family and friends.”

I did notice the following grammer errors in part of your message that I read:

End of 5th paragraph - "their claim isn't in accord with the very Bible the claim to hold as the 'breath of God'."
Near end of 8 th paragraph – “In hindsight, I believe it made me an good elder;”
"Millions and millions of pages, books, magazines, brochures and talk outlines highlighted how evil the UN is and the belief that that Jehovah will use the United Nations to destroy all "false religion" leaving only Jehovah's Witnesses on earth."
"Imagine the shock when it was discovered (insert that) the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society was an associate member of the United Nations Public Information Department starting in 1992."

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Shun Run 2014: Show Courage, Don't Shun

by rawe in

jw
friends

our third annual shun run will be held again at 10am at papago park, tempe, az on saturday, april 12th.

this is a low-key public event that all who wish to see an end to organizational-induced shunning can join in.

lecture room on floor 4 at 2:00pm.. as part of this event, i write a letter to sdb:ssy, the otherwise anonymous jw author who informed me about the df'ing announcement in my case.

ABibleStudent

Awesome cause rawe!!

I hope that hundreds show up.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Been through so much!

by MissConfused in

its been a while that i came here due to so many ups and downs emotionally.. :(.

crazy that the family is so divided now that we cannot sit and talk (even though we pretend while attending meetings).

all i can think is this line from hotel california - "you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave"... love the family so much that dont feel like hurting them.. this is killing me.. regards, miss confused!.

ABibleStudent

I'm sorry that you feel trapped MissConfused. Can you make more non-JW friends? Can you write about what your family is so divided about and whose opinion do you care about the most?

I know that meetings are boring and mind numbing, so what are your options for missing meetings? Have you considered getting a better education/training/career that would conflict with attending all the meetings? What hobbies/interest do you have that you could think about during meetings or need to skip one or two meetings a month?

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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JW parents are CRAZY

by Demokan in

hello again, for those who don't know me i'm a 15 year old boy.

and recently my mom is displaying symptoms of demensia, she left the stove on today and she yells at us for watching commercials on t.v that are "demonic" because today there was a commercial on television for the new 300 movie and she started yelling at my sister to turn it off, and then i was listening to coldplay as a playlist while doing my school work and she started yelling at me to turn the demonic music off.

she says "demonic" this "demonic" that.

ABibleStudent

Hi Demokan, I'm sorry about your family situation. It sucks!! I know that you temporarily feel good by swearing to your mother and/or sister,but would you be willing to use more effective long-term methods?

When your mother starts asking crazy, ask her for permission to go to your room. When you go to your room, listen to what music you like and chill. It is more important to get away from your mother when she is acting crazy than being right. If your mother cannot behave like an adult, then you have to.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Russian Parliament Approves Military Action in the Crimea

by ABibleStudent in

why did russian president vladimir putin ask the russian parliament to approve using military forces to keep the peace in the crimea, instead of asking the un?

why did the russian parliment pass a law approving military force instead of asking for the un to send peace keeping forces to the crimea (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?.

is russia spiralling into a totalitarian dictatorship like germany in the 1930's and the soviet union from 1920's - 1990's with information control and coercive tactics?

ABibleStudent

hamsterbait - The government in ukraine has asked Russia to come in, unlike the governments in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Venezuela,Ecuador, Panama, Grenada.

Hi Hamsterbait, Don't you mean the newly-elected Crimean leader asked for Russia's help and not the Ukrainian government which was recently formed within the last two weeks. Also, the US has never invaded Venezuela nor Ecuador, and only provided air support to Afganistan, and some air support to Libyan rebels.

I do agree that US government officials should stop making public comments like President Obama has made that will only irritate the Russians. It would be much better for the USA to support UN peace keeping efforts and to provide logistical support to news organizations and private citizens to monitor Russian military activity. It would be much better to post videos on the web so that Russians could learn what their government is doing without being filtered by the Russian government.

I don't like when governments, organizations, nor people use information control, false information, coercion, or spin doctoring to victimize other people for their benefit.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Statement by David Clohessy, Director of SNAP: JWs predator escapes consequences

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.snapnetwork.org/pa_jehovah_witness_predator_escapes_consequences .

pa--jehovah witness predator escapes consequences .

posted on snap website by barbara dorris on march 01, 2014 flag .

ABibleStudent

Thanks Barbara for the information. I think I will write to SNAP about supporting changes to requirements for non-profit organizations.

Litigation is ok for seeking justice, but I would rather politicians change laws to protect children from abuse/molestation.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert

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Russian Parliament Approves Military Action in the Crimea

by ABibleStudent in

why did russian president vladimir putin ask the russian parliament to approve using military forces to keep the peace in the crimea, instead of asking the un?

why did the russian parliment pass a law approving military force instead of asking for the un to send peace keeping forces to the crimea (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?.

is russia spiralling into a totalitarian dictatorship like germany in the 1930's and the soviet union from 1920's - 1990's with information control and coercive tactics?

ABibleStudent

fulltimestudent - Some wild talk ! May I suggest a bare 30 minutes research into the problem of Ukraine, before starting to post.

Hi fulltimestudent, Can you be a little more specific about what wild talk you are referring to?

What is so wild about the US privately suggesting to the Ukrainian and Russian governments to ask the UN to send Peace Keepers to the Crimea for 90-days or until tensions subside? In 90-days UN supervised elections could be held so that the residents of Crimea could voice their opinion about what they wanted. Of course any referendum should be passed by at least a 2/3 majority of voters to minimize disaffecting tartars and Ukraine ethnic groups.

Considering the vote counting controversy of Russia's 2012 Presidential elections and subsequent opposition to protests/freedom of speech/freedom of the press by Vladmir Putin, wouldn't UN peade keepers do a better job of maintaining peace and security than the Russian Military? If fighting occurs between tartars and Russian troops, it will be too late for the UN to help.

Peace be with you and everyone, who you love,

Robert