Yep...I was hoping for him too Lady Lee. ;)
Kaethra
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Does this Give you the Heebie Jeebies?
by Stacey indoes this make you think of looking at the pictures in all of the publications?
images from this guy make me think of the witnesses.
i'm just wondering if anyone else gets the same weird feeling when they look at this.. http://www.chayan.com/phototheque/chutes/chu_003.htm
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Kaethra
Naaah...it's much too cool to be dub work....really rather beautiful art actually. Besides, there are no pics of women in short skirts being destroyed, or men with earrings getting snuffed, or teddy bears falling into great abysses, you know? Stuff like that would make me think of jw "art". :)
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Anyone know exBethelites Who Went Off the Deep End?
by willyloman inthis was inspired by seven006's fascinating series on his consulting trip to bethel.
wonder if anyone else has a story like this to tell?
my first memory of questioning whether the revered bethel experience might be somewhat less than what was advertised was:.
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Kaethra
Voltaire,
I, too, was left with a ..well....queer feeling
heh heh heh...that's been said here before about Bethel. ;)
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It's not just the weather that's cooler in Canada
by Skeptic ini wish i knew the original source of this article.
it appears to be written by an american.
thought i would share it, as i am proud of canada.. it's not just the weather that's cooler in canada.
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Kaethra
Pathofthorns posted this article in Englishman's thread titled "United States and Canada" back on August 14th. I meant to thank him (her?) then but I forgot. Thanks for re-posting it. Apparently, it was written by Samantha Bennett of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette....so there you go!
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United States and Canada.
by Englishman inmost europeans have more than a little difficulty in telling a us accent apart from that of a canadian one.
it's a bit like ozzies and kiwi's, until you've met a few, the differences aren't that apparent to the untrained ear.
some folk even think that the us and canada are simply interchangeable terms for what is basically the same place.
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Kaethra
I'm born and raised Canuck....Nova Scotian, to be more precise. I do NOT say "aboot" or "hoose" or "eh"...and I don't know anyone else who does. And "house about" Amazing? What the heck is that??!!
Seriously though, eh?
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How do you manage your money?
by Billygoat inas a child, i used to baby-sit kids in the neighborhood for money.
it wasnt much, but $2 or $3 an hour to a 14 year-old back in the early/mid 80s was pretty big stuff.
on new years eve when a lot of parents were clamoring for baby-sitters, the price would go up to $5 an hour, which was awesome.
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Kaethra
Very brave post Billygoat...considering how unwilling most people are to talk about their financial situation.
I'd like to respond to each of your questions:
Do any of you find yourselves struggling because you never learned to save?
Not struggling per se, but wishing that I'd begun saving and spending less a lot sooner.
Was the impending doom of Armageddon a factor in how you spent money?
Not until I left the cult while still believing in it. I thought that I was going to be toast at any moment, so I'd better live it up now! (It's been about three years since I felt that way...learned all about the Lie since then.)
Did you abuse credit because it would get cleared in the New System?
No. I thought I wouldn't be around in the "New System". See above. (Although, in a sense, I guess I would have been cleared of my debt. lol)
Do you think it is for JWs today? Or is it different from when I was a kid?
I think many jws mismanage their money. I'm not really sure if they do so more than the average person though...there are loads of people out there who've never been jws who are totally clueless about money...in fact, I'd say that the majority of people are downright stupid when it comes to money management.
As far as jws today...hmmm....well, my family members are all very much into the stock market, mutual funds, equity investments, etc. That wasn't the case when I was growing up. I think that the change in the teaching about the generation of 1914 has had a real impact in this regard.
Did your parents teach you good finance management habits?
In many ways, yes. They taught by example. They never bought anything that they could not afford to pay for right away...even vehicles, which they always bought used. If they used a credit card, they used it only out of convenience. Credit card bills were always paid on time and in full every month. The only exception to that rule was the mortgage on the house. Before I left the borg, I was only working part-time and I still managed to save quite a substantial amount...an amount that I have not seen in a savings account of mine since. Then again, I was a good little dub at the time...what the heck did I have to spend my money on? lol
What are some things you’ve done to teach yourself new spending habits? (I mean practical little things.)
Other than realizing that Jehoover isn't going to strike me dead any day you mean? I have a couple:
Keep a budget - even a simplified one is great. I use an Excel spreadsheet to track what I spend in general terms so that I know whether or not I'm meeting my own savings goals. I have formulae everywhere in the spreadsheet so I know if I spend more than I should in one area, I have to compensate elsewhere. (It's kind of depressing to look at sometimes, but it does the trick.) The great thing about it is that if you project it month by month for a year or two, you can really see your money in savings adding up to a nice, tidy little sum.
Never use a credit card to buy meals or drinks....or more to the point, never take a credit card with you when you are out for a few drinks!
Any recommendations in terms of how to clear debt?
You could see a credit counsellor. Make sure you go to one that doesn't charge anything for their services though. They can help to lower the interest rates on the credit cards you are paying off....sometimes even eliminating the interest altogether. Just be advised that if you are up-to-date on your payments, going through a credit counsellor *may* adversely affect your credit rating.
Any recommendations on how to GET MOTIVATED and STAY DISCIPLINED?
I find the projected budget does wonders for me. I can see the numbers grow and grow...and/or shrink and shrink when I put in extra expenses for things I don't really need.
That's about it from me!
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Did you lose respect for your parents because of the JW / Watchtower crap ?
by run dont walk inthis is probaly one of my biggest problems i dealt with growing up in the jw crap.. it's no fun growing up alone.. i am sorry, but i hated my parents (probaly from the time i was 13), i know that is mean and a terrible thing to say, but that's how i felt.
i had no respect for them growing up in the borg.
they taught me nothing about ................. having a relationship/dating.
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Kaethra
Hey run...is it ok if I call you run, hun? :)
I know what you mean. My parents were forever giving me the lecture about "respecting" them....the thing was, I never really did anything bad in the first place...I just "talked back" when they were giving me yet another lecture about some ridiculous, petty thing...like not wanting to sit for an hour during the family study...GAWWDD!! How I HATED that family study...SOOOO BORING! It wasn't enough that we had to go to all the meetings, read all the literature, then re-read and re-study it on our own before the meetings, then again before field service, and then go in field service itself...it's no wonder I hated that one additional hour of "family study" so!
Whew! Got off on a bit of a tangent about the family study....did I mention how much I HATED family study?
Anyway...most parents need to realize that they have to actually EARN their children's respect. That's not a psychology lesson that goes over too well in any fundamentalist household, unfortunately.
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Childhood Sexuality
by JH innow be honest, at what age does a person start to masturbate?
read the link and you will be surprised.
answer that question in your mind first and after, read this link below.. .
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Kaethra
"...told me he had developed this hernia because he'd masturbated for the first time, at the age of thirty! "
OH MY GAWD! 30!!?? I really feel for this poor guy, really. But just imagine the poor woman who gets to be his "first"...be afraid; be very afraid....
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Childhood Sexuality
by JH innow be honest, at what age does a person start to masturbate?
read the link and you will be surprised.
answer that question in your mind first and after, read this link below.. .
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Kaethra
From Piph: "....children who masturbate are often victims of sexual abuse...I'm sure that's not always the case, but in the case of the little girl fantasizing about being attacked, I would certainly guess that's the case with her..."
I have to strongly disagree with you.
First on this: "children who masturbate are often victims of sexual abuse". I would like to rephrase this if you don't mind. Children who masturbate are often fond of puppies. Children who masturbate are often fond of candy. Children who masturbate almost always like playing with paper airplanes. Children who masturbate are frequently skipping, jumping, and generally having fun.
No adult likes to think of children being sexual creatures, but the truth is - they are. Of course, that does not mean in ANY way, that they are ready for adult sexuality. I noted another poster above, (apologies that I can't remember your handle), mentioned that her little son plays with "himself" but she doesn't believe he experiences sexual pleasure from it. Perhaps not. But, I think that as adults who want to protect children, we must understand reality. The truth is that sexual abuse usually "feels" very good to the child being abused...why? because it is sexual! That's what makes sexual abuse so insidious. That's also why it's so difficult for children to tell their parents about being abused...in most cases, it feels good to the child...and I'm not just talking about the candy she was given beforehand.
Second on this Piph: "children who masturbate are often victims of sexual abuse...I'm sure that's not always the case, but in the case of the little girl fantasizing about being attacked, I would certainly guess that's the case with her."
It's a pretty common sexual fantasy for a girl, even a very young girl, to imagine being attacked...not certain why that is but I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with the many other fantasies that little girls are fed; of being helpless and endangered and ultimately rescued by the big, strong man...those fantasies come from what our culture feeds to little girls every day. I remember having that sort of sexual fantasy when I was as young as 6 or 7...and at that age I had never been sexually abused.
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Childhood Sexuality
by JH innow be honest, at what age does a person start to masturbate?
read the link and you will be surprised.
answer that question in your mind first and after, read this link below.. .
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Kaethra
Well..that's just it then, isn't it, euphemism?
Where does sexuality begin? or rather...When does sexuality begin?
It seems quite obvious really...that we are sexual creatures from birth.