being the old bastard that i am, i like the oldies as far as music goes.
yesterday, i was working and singing out loud like i do alot and i was singing "16 candles.
" as i was singing it, i remembered something i've thought about before...........why are many songs from the oldies about 16 year old girls?
How funny! I was just thinking of this the other day while listening to that Winger song...I used to love that song as a kid, now it just seems really creepy when I think about it. ha
And how about the Beatles' When I Saw Her Standing There? Well she was just seventeen...you know what I mean...and the way she looked was way beyond compare...yadayadayada....
well, i finally received that dreaded phone call from the hospital.
mum died peacefully in her sleep two weeks ago.
she'd been paralyzed on one side since her last stroke and could no longer swallow.
It's difficult to lose a parent, I know. But, it seems like there's a bit of relief in your post and that is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. My grandmother passed away last year after lengthy 'old-agedness' in which she could not do anything for herself. It was very hard to look after her and even harder to watch her pitiful quality of life...death was peace for her and relief for the family. Sorry to anyone who thinks that is harsh, but it's the truth. I was not sorry when she died; I was sorry when she was too far gone to be able to enjoy any part of living anymore.
((Hugs to you acsot)). You are a gem and I was so glad to have met you in Ottawa.
Kaethra
just curious about this question today and wondered if anyone else has pondered this.. is worship meant to be a reverent show of appreciation for life that god imparts to individuals?
if that's the case, and someone - by the mere accident of their birth - has a truly crappy life, why should these people worship god or show him "appreciation" for their unfortunate circumstances?
why should anyone who endures hardships worship god, particularly if they have been worshiping god and then all of a sudden a heap of trouble just plops into their lives, unannounced and unwelcome??.
Little Toe - I'm surprised you found anything here to be offensive. whoa...am I that out of touch with believers??
Good question Scully...it's a good one to discuss with even the most ardent jws...it's not an apostate-type question, so it may open their minds just a little.
some of you may remember that last year my 21 year old brother died from leukimia.
the day after i posted about it here .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/63039/1.ashx.
FBF - you are a beautiful, passionate woman...and I love that about you. Frequently however, I find it hard to understand what you are trying to say. I think I know what you mean here though:
Why should I have to hear what the JW's want to say about what they feel, when I can't say what I feel
Yes...I know. But I feel that if I go to the jw funeral of someone who died believing as a jw, it is my gift to them to sacrifice my feelings and pay them respect by being there...amongst their belief system.
I don't know if there is an afterlife. I'd like to think that there is...at least, in some ways. It scares me a little too.
When my brother's father-in-law died, his wife was next to him and she said he 'just opened his eyes so wide!!'...then he was gone. It was like he was surprised by something. I guess it would be a huge surprise to a faithful witness to see that white tunnel with all your loved ones who had previously passed. Even if it's just a delusion caused by the lack of oxygen to the brain, or whatever, I hope I get to experience that tunnel of light and love when it's my turn.
i have found that jw?s and most former jw?s have a distorted view of how the holy spirit works.
after years of hearing the ?mind numbing?
phrase ?jehovah?s spirit directed organization?
who is Didier??
some of you may remember that last year my 21 year old brother died from leukimia.
the day after i posted about it here .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/63039/1.ashx.
Frenchbabyface - you wrote "now I feel like I will probably not going to any JW's funeral even if its my mons or sister"
I hear you on that one. As awful and uncomfortable as it is though, it is one final act of respect and love for the person who has passed. It is a small sacrifice to make. I hope that people will come to my funeral...no matter how awkward it may make them feel.
some of you may remember that last year my 21 year old brother died from leukimia.
the day after i posted about it here .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/63039/1.ashx.
oh and I meant to add - I'm very sorry for your loss too Elvis. That is so sad.
some of you may remember that last year my 21 year old brother died from leukimia.
the day after i posted about it here .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/63039/1.ashx.
very touching Doodle...and so familiar. I'm so sorry for your loss. I found this line of yours particularly heartbreaking: "My parents ask to follow us because they had never been to our house before." I'm tearing up over that.
I've been to two jw funerals recently and you capture the feelings I had very well. It's so awkward when they sing those songs. I love to sing and I remember those songs so well...even if they are bizarre and awful to me now. I felt like I was being disrespectful by not singing, but hypocritical to sing something that is so far removed from what I believe (or rather, don't believe) now. ugggh...
I'm looking forward to the rest when you are able to write it.
((cyber-hugs to you)),
Kaethra
mt father became a jw during the second world war .
he was conscientous objector before that.he is now 85 years old and i left jw 2 years ago.. on monday i went out with him and something he said just set me off.
in 15 minuted i told him about raymond franz, carl olof johnson, 607bce.
I'm absolutely with Mulan on this one. My mom has her friends and family at the hall. She has meetings and studying and service to give her life purpose. I can't imagine what she would do without that. I think it would be devastating to realize the Lie at this point and it would cut me to the core to see her go through that.
If they are still open enough to have a relationship with you, then let them have their faith. Talk about other things that you have in common and leave the religion out of it. Of course, it's different if they want to continue to preach to you. Then you may need to state your reasons for disbelief in order to scare them away from the topic. ha
it's not for atheists only...i just hoped i'd get their attention.
my oldest brother is about 10 years older than me.
he married a girl that i adored.
Thank you all so much for your caring words and suggestions.
Oh, and don't worry...I'd never try to dissuade her from her faith at this point. This is one of the situations where I am envious of those with faith.
