Excellent work on this subject. Hoping to forward it to hard core family & friends but need to "plough before I plant" first, as wt use to instruct us to do!
Thanks for all the time, effort & concern that went into producing this Lloyd.
clarity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulswb2avxvc.
let's set aside our differences for the moment and appreciate this excellent documentary cedars put together that should prove to be an invaluable tool in helping to expose the child abuse issues in the organization.. i was humbled to be able to help with this project on such an important subject, though my part in it was insignificant..
Excellent work on this subject. Hoping to forward it to hard core family & friends but need to "plough before I plant" first, as wt use to instruct us to do!
Thanks for all the time, effort & concern that went into producing this Lloyd.
clarity
only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
Wow ...beautiful letter Elderess and an awesome message! Welcome to the both of you. Exhilarating & terrifying at the same time, you may feel like you are on a rollercoaster for awhile.
By all means take your time ...armageddon is not coming. What really woke me up was the "the generation" bunk, and the overlapping generations!! What!!!
Where in jesus supposed words did he say overlapping generations? He said "Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." and those followers that he was talking to hadn't all died 40 yrs later when Jerusalem & the temple were destroyed. Where does it mention overlapping!
Omg so many things just went right over my head ,,,,but not that one!
So huge congratulations you two ... you are on the path to freedom.
Thank you for sharing your experiences hoping to hear more from you.
clarity
thursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.
consider three examples.
first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.
Never thought I'd ever hear ignorance extolled as a virtue!
I's like ....oh wow ...how dumb am I !!!!!!!! Idiots!
Who is the brains of this outfit ?........don't worry about it. If & when they find do find one, I'm sure they will be so proud! They might even have it bronzed.
i didn't see an introduction forum anywhere but i thought it would be weird to start posting without first introducing myself so, here we are.
i'm 15, and i've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts on the religion that i'm pretty much stuck in at the moment.
my mom and dad divorced over their different beliefs over a year ago (my mom is jw and my dad is an very knowledgeable apostate, so you can see how they would fight over it), and since then i've stopped believing altogether.. just thought i'd say hello.
Nice to see you on here Thomas...... great that you can see right through this organization. Get out quietly but get out and enjoy your life ...you only get one and this is it!
I hope you are starting to see what would be a wise educational move for you. Find out what you really love to do & do it!
Hang around you will find support here as long as you need it.
clarity
hey everyone,.
just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.
if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.
The other name I was looking for was Ewart Chitty. Not sure about Percy being kicked out but he seems very questionable. Sort of Like Franz in the steam room I guess!
hey everyone,.
just a simple straight forward question on exactly what the process is.
if a gb member died tomorrow, do the remaining ones choose who gets to be next?.
"I was thinking it was maybe one and the rest turn a blind eye."
Well Millie that has been the case.
Leo Greenlees & a chubby guy ... Percy ...cant remember last name, were gb members and the rest just turned a blind eye. Even Freddie Franz was weird in that way ..... many hours spent in the steam room (necked as a jailbird!) with the young boys!
Percy had a special boys who were called Percy's boys!
clarity
it's great to see all the familiar posters as i've been reading for the last few hours.
still offering great advice and help.
awesome job.
jerry jones on youtube exposed a jw couple who were begging for money on gofundme.
this is his youtube .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feohxtbml2c.
Wow .... they are hoping to get money from those who they consider to be the walking dead!
I had to work full time at a difficult job and was constantly put down because of it. But who did they come to when a "poor" pioneer needed stamps or clothes or a flight home ....those who were working that's who!
clarity
if you read some of my past posts you’ll know that i’ve successfully faded while being able to keep contact with my immediate family, who are still very devout jws.
when i did finally completely stop attending meetings, my family, and especially my parents (elder father and pioneer mom), were of course very interested to know the reasons why.
at first i deflected their questions, stating that i had personal reasons and did not want to explain myself.
Scared and lonely ...... so sorry you are feeling this way. Many of us are or have been in your position. All is not lost, you will gain strength and a sense of your own power & importance.
You need to find people to be with ...even strangers at coffee shops. If you are able ... go to a therapist.
Watchtower lies when they say the world is bad & the people are bad. There are wonderful people all around you ....hold out your hand to them. Keep posting & researching.......you will make it no matter what way you do it. Freedom is priceless ...be brave.
clarity