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  In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

  by slimboyfat in

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  i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

  he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

  he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

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  I remember this change. I also remember it was really difficult for the older ones to stop saying "vindicate Jehovah's name" all the time.
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  Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

  by bohm in

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  2. friends

  this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

  can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

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  A comment was made that 'The Message' would soon be changing. I asked 'like that the ark door will soon be closing?'. Answer, 'Yes'

  That was the whole point of that little phrase they slipped into the infamous bunker video: "when our message changed from one of good news to one of judgement." Perfectly designed to get all the good dubs scared and chattering among themselves, trying to figure out if the message has changed yet. So they'll hang on every word coming out of the GB in those stupid broadcasting videos, and over-analyze every Watchtower article to see if it could be considered "judgement".

  So completely transparent what they were trying to accomplish with that video. Not surprised to see it having an effect already.
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  Evidence for a Young Earth

  by Perry in

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  for additional information:.

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  I don't know that I've ever come across anyone as intellectually vacant and intentionally ignorant as Perry. It's astonishing to behold.
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  Any news about changes in the Elder’s arrangement?

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not based on any major reliable information, just spiritual gossip among some very weak spiritually friends.. since the wt has made monumental changes in personnel, including bethel and cos; some are speculating that eventually there will be a cutback in the number of elders in a congregation and a return to the 1930-1970 servant’s model.. i can see some good reasons for this:.

  poor quality among the elders, maybe one or two are really carrying the entire load.

  the merging of the congregations will create a glut of elders strange to each other, the more that they have the more conflicts in the making.. the duties of the elders have been decreasing and most of the decisions are made upstairs.. the pre 1970 arrangement worked really well and it will take the wt less than 1-3 to find a biblical basis to bring it back.. friends, just some saturday morning thoughts.. thanks for reading..

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  I don't see how they could do this these days. Average sized congregations with 7+ elders tend to be overworked as it is, with all the moral policing the Society requires them to do, combined with being forced to pretend to be therapists and psychologists for everyones problems. And then all the busywork of running meetings, talks, day-to-day congregation responsibilities... they're much, much busier than they were in the 60s.
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  New Spiritually Weak Label: Not Using Tablet/iPhone

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  2. beliefs

  with last night's meeting it became official: here in the states is a must to keep up with 'jehovah's org' that one fully jumps on board with this tablet/iphone crap.. so, now, all of us that up to this point have refused to follow the wtbts in their electronic/wireless revolution will deal with the browbeating from the 'spiritual' ones.. already receiving lots of grief from hubby and rest of the family/close friends when seen at the meetings with paper publications.

  damn it!!!

  am i alone in this resistance???!!!.

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  Pretty amazing how quickly it went from assembly demonstrations going on about how much of a "distraction" and "waste of time" gadgets like smartphones and tablets are, telling people to not spend money or time on them because that could be time and money spent for the preaching work... to suddenly now if you don't have a tablet you're looked at as "spiritually weak".
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  Socialism

  by Perry in

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  2. current

  socialists think that money will solve all man's problems.

  everything is obsessively related to money in the socialist ideology.. they have an almost supernatural ability to blame others with more money.

  god calls this greed and envy.

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  A nutty, hardcore evangelical type quoting Ayn Rand bolster their argument is amazing to watch.
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  Socialism

  by Perry in

  1. social
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  socialists think that money will solve all man's problems.

  everything is obsessively related to money in the socialist ideology.. they have an almost supernatural ability to blame others with more money.

  god calls this greed and envy.

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  Preach it, brother. The real answer is the uncontrolled, unabashed pursuit of wealth and money, just like Jesus taught.
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  They want to get rid of "anointed ones" - It's getting clear

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. bible

  i've never met a group that turns on it's members like the jw's.

  sister faithful that thinks she's anointed is now bat shit crazy with mental illness.

  we all have known it's true, but now you have the wt, who put it in everyone's head that you can be anointed.

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  The thing is, they caused the partaker number to start rising. It had been pretty steady for years, but then they decided to do away with the 1935 "sealing" of the number of anointed, and I think that opened the door just wide enough for those who were sitting on the fence about it to decide they were anointed, too.
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  Splane "Bible writer's not logical"

  by Backinthebox in

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  2. bible

  bethelite asked splane since mt 25 is set in the great trib because half way through mt 24 events turn to the great trib, does that not mean the generation starts when the great tribulation starts and has nothing to do with 1914. splane replied the bible writers were not logical they would pick a topic then randomly go back to another topic.

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  That wouldn't surprise me. I know they claim parts of the Gospel narratives weren't laid out chronologically, which is how they hand-wave away the fact that, contrary to WT teaching, none of the accounts have Judas being dismissed before the establishment of the New Covenant.
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  Elders & Ex Elders

  by brandnew in

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  2. friends

  i have a question.....if two jw have sex and only one of them goes to the eldurrs and confesses.....do they both get busted?

  or does the boe need a confession from both people.?

  if one of em denies it happened will that person still get df'd?.

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  So their crazy Pharisaical rules can create a sort of quantum state of sin? Where from one observation it happened, and from another it didn't? And both states can be acted on independently and thus it can be stated that the act both did and didn't happen?

  This is the kind of stupidity that crops up when you're obsessed with the letter of the law.