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Which Bible to get?

by Kat_ in

ooops!

how did i end up posting this twice?

is there a way to erase one of them?.

Kat_

I didn't notice that this second (duplicate) post of mine was still here!

Anyway, that's why it took me so long to reply:

Thanks, steph, for the added info. I have actually come to the same conclusion of the advice you offered. I finally understand the differences (thanks to a wonderful, handy little diagram of sorts and article in the bookstore url that, I think, Quester pasted in a post in the other thread.) I have decided to get one literal, one middle dynamic (NIV is at the top of my list), and possibly, one of the more 'readable' versions like the basic NLT or The Book. The third, I think, would just be enjoyable to have; great for wanting a more contemporary feel.

Again, thanks for the input.

Kat

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Which Bible to get?

by Kat_ in

i was just wondering: never in my life have i owned (or even read) a bible other than the nwt.

i really wish to study the bible but really do not wish to use this version.

after seeing the plethora of bibles out there i was wondering if there is any person here who can give me an un-biased opinion on which bible to get.

Kat_

Hello again to all:

I thouroughly enjoyed reading all the posts and I did learn a lot just from reading them. You all made excellent points. Thanks again for the input!

To Mark:

Thanks so much for the kind offer! Unfortunately, since I am still new on this board and have not even revealed my email address here, I am still uncomfortable with the idea of giving out any personal information to anyone, especially a home address...it's nothing personal, trust me. However, I have decided that a NIV will be among my choices. So while I would LOVE to get one for free, I will go ahead and just purchase the one I had planned on. Thanks so much for the kind gesture, though. It really means a lot.

Kat

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HELP Needed in custody case!

by Esmeralda in

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friends

i received a letter last night (as many of you did) about a particular.

custody battle being fought by a poster on this board.. she just found out that she lost custody of her 3 children to her jw ex, despite the fact that they are in danger of being exposed to a pedophile relative through this man.. i am asking anyone who may know anything about setting up a legal defense fund (or anyone who knows about utah custudy law/ lawyers in utah) to please respond to this post.

time is of the essence, the girls have already gone back to their father today.

Kat_

<<My father who molested me signed an affidavit against me saying I was mentally uncapable of raising children due to being abused as a child.>> - alamb

Did he also sign the affidavit that says he is mentally incapable of signing any affidavits due to his own past as an abuser?

If I read your post right, I think there should have been one more affidavit to sign.

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Please hepl me to find answer

by petermanna in

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friends

hi all:.

i need your opinion about one web site its www.timestime.com .why i am asking for it ?

i am more than surprised about subject of this site and now i am confused what its right and what is wrong.this site contain information about god end of times and so on and i didnt found anything what can convinced me that that they are mistaking.think is i am studying with jw but they didnt want to help me to answer my questions because they said its not healty to read anything else except their books.i didnt listen because i am used to do everything on my own and now i am really searching.so if you could tell me at least that they are mistaking on their site and show me how ill apreciated.

Kat_

Welcome Peter,

I agree with Free that you could check out the links. I can also understand how hard it can sometimes be to get certain feelings and questions out when typing. My parents are from Poland, I am first generation American, and we are all bi-lingual. Many in my family are still learning English--my dad just made up his own mix of English and Polish . One thing my father has told me is that it is MUCH harder to express your thoughts in English on the computer than to just speak it. I never realized that until I talked to him on the computer. Anyway, I think your English is terrific!

I wish I could give you answers about the JW's but I myself am learning. After being raised as one, I just now am starting to read other materials that are not on their 'approved reading' list When I left the JW religion I was never baptized. While I can't offer you any real answers (sorry!), I would like to tell you that you are doing right by not getting baptized and by doing your own research. It is so important to decide for yourself, not let the Watchtower decide for you. You are right in thinking that for them to try to tell you not to read anything else but their work is a warning in itself. You are on the right track. Please give it time, there is information to be found. I agree with Free...post a specific topic and also, follow the links.

Kat

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My Aunt Passed Away & I'd like to talk

by Bendrr in

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friends

on tuesday, my mom called me at work to tell me my aunt linda passed away.

she'd had diabetes and kidney problems for years.

tuesday, she was on dialysis and her blood pressure bottomed out and she just went to sleep and never woke up.

Kat_

Michael,

There's not much I can say that hasn't already been beautifully said in this thread. I just wanted to tell you how sorry I am not only for the loss of your Aunt Linda, but also for your other losses. You need support now more than ever and it's a shame that it's not available where it should be naturally. It's also upsetting to know that these people, Billy especially, are cutting off their noses to spite their faces. I am sure they need and could have gotten an abudance of comfort and friendship from an obviously caring family member, you, to help them in and share with them the grief of losing your Aunt, and they are missing out because of some groundless, cruel rule that they are blindly following. Again, I am sorry for your loss; and I am also sorry for theirs.

Kat

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A voice.....

by ReverendRoy in

as some of you may have noticed i always include this quote with my signature - "why is it when we talk to god we're praying - but when god talks to us, we're schizophrenic?".

i am poking some fun at this concept basically.

however, a few years ago, driving in my car on the way to work, i heard a very clear, audible voice that was not mine.

Kat_

Hey Roy,

Cool, albeit eerie, story. I tend to be a optomistic skeptic. I always start thinking, "Naaahhhh"...but then I go to "well, it could happen".

I think people are so skeptical these days about everything. There are a lot of people, myself included, who believe in some unquestionable and undefinable higher power or powers. With that said, why is it so hard to accept something like hearing a voice from nowhere? Sure, it sounds crazy. I'd have been the first one to admit you to a psych ward, but why? For those of us who do believe in the even just the possibility of God, who are we to say what is possible and what is not?

To answer your question about personal experiences: I personally heard a voice but I attributed that to my pregnancy hormones affecting my mental state of mind. It wasn't a deep, heavenly or meaningful message. It was downright stupid and ended up being nothing. I was alone in bed reading a book and it was late at night. The entire house was silent. My son was asleep, my husband wasn't home, and the tv was off. I heard a man's deep voice, low but commanding, a little louder than a whisper, say "Put the book down". It was IN my room, not far away...so near me that I felt it (if that makes sense). At the time it happened, I screamed and jumped out of bed so quickly and got so startled that I nearly induced my own labor from all the excitement! I called my brother and my mother to pass the time because I was too scared to go back to bed. They laughed hysterically and told me I was crazy. And, once I calmed down, I put the whole event behind me as a figment of my imagination. To this day I deny it was anything. I won't believe it was anything other than my imagination. If I let myself believe it was anything more than that, I would never read in bed again! I think that's why I am skeptical.

Kat

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new to board

by Pablo Picasso in

hello, this is my first post to this board.

i'm a married 24 year old male, i've been married for 2 1/2 years.

my wife and i are in the process of trying to get out of the wts, presently we live on the east coast of the us, but are planning to move to the west coast in 6 months.

Kat_

Welcome Pablo!

Good luck in your move and I hope all goes well. I am relatively new here and this is a great place to get information and support. I hope you won't hesitate to post should you need to 'talk'. There are some terrific people here.

Kat

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still resisting!

by Kat_ in

this is my first time on a message board relating to anything jw.

i haven't posted anything in the past because i still held to the fear that it would be betraying what i was taught, betraying my family, betraying god.

this is precisely my life as it is now.

Kat_

Thanks for the welcome Escargot and Yadira. Thanks for the encouraging words Roy. I feel just like your wife...I sometimes feel I will lose all sanity if I don't get away from these kids!
But then when push comes to shove and I actually seriosly think about it, I start to get all mushy and teary just thinking about actually leaving my babies. But I know every parent goes through this so I will be fine once I get used to it. But for now, I am still not going to do anything; not until my son starts pre-k. He will soon (within a month or so) be going to a pre-k program whether I like it or not...he needs to go for developmental purposes. If he does well, I will look into putting my daughter into a mommies-day-out ( one day a week, for a few hours)program or something small like that. That's my starting point--from there I will see what I will do.

I am happy to hear your wife has worked out a good plan, though. I am glad you are so supportive, too...good man!

Yarida: Thanks for the compliment! I always had that little something in me that believed in miracles and angels, etc. My own son was a true miracle and that kind of gave me a wake up call...from there, it took me a few more years but since then, slowly but surely, I have finally developed my own ideas about what JW's are and aren't. I feel like that was really God asking me "well, time to decide"...corny, I know, but it really changed my life. While I only officially rejected the JW teachings a short time ago, I think, in retrospect, back then was really when I started questioning things.
Thank you for the prayers and I will do the same for Ericka.

Take Care,
Kat

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still resisting!

by Kat_ in

this is my first time on a message board relating to anything jw.

i haven't posted anything in the past because i still held to the fear that it would be betraying what i was taught, betraying my family, betraying god.

this is precisely my life as it is now.

Kat_

Another long one...sorry, but you are asking for it by encouraging me!!!

Hiya!

Esther: very good advice. I need to start writing things down. Right now I am just reading and researching, but not taking many notes...so I can't remember details I've found one day to the next. I will also keep it simple...one fact at a time...instead of little things all over the place...hmm, maybe if I applied that to my posts they would not be so long???

Out: Excellent insight on the whole Mother thing; I never really thought about how she may feel that whatever I do reflects on her competency as a parent. I get it. So, even though I am grown up I still have mommy 'raising' me...quite understandable and actually not surprising...I don't think mothers ever quite want their children to 'grow up'.

As far as working goes, I actually feel extremely lucky to be able to stay at home with my kids. Sometimes I wish I could get out of this house and away from my kids but when I really think about it, there are many, many parents who would love to stay at home but cannot. So I actually agree with you; and my father, but that's not my point. My point is that whenever I think about possibly just going back to work early (when my daughter turns 2), even if it's just a faraway thought, he gets upset and tells me I absolutely cannot go to work. It's one thing to disagree or tell me that he personally thinks I should stay home, but it's another thing for him to command me to continue staying at home. These are only wishful thoughts that I sometimes have...I do enjoy staying home and am thankful I can. But it's sometimes nice to think of other options, if only to know that they are always there. It's that whole 'loss of power' thing. Sometimes I feel trapped in my life; husband works two jobs so I never see him, we have one car only and he takes it, and I basically am stuck at home with two toddlers. Same routine every day. There are millions of parents in the exact same situation so I don't feel any self-pity, in fact I think I have it pretty good. Still, sometimes it gets to be too much I think to myself , "well, I can go back to work anytime I want"...and that makes me feel better just knowing I do have control over my life. So, I just want my parents to respect that I do have control over my own life and that certain decisions will be mine and mine alone. God, I feel like some teenager complaining about mom and dad. Sheesh! My petty complaints aside, I really do have a terrific relationship with them--I think it's just that I've never really gone off and started a life without them, which I have no intention of doing...I love being so close to them, so they are involoved in every aspect of my life. We are an extremely close family and I won't even leave the state (I would love to move north somewhere) because I couldn't fathom living farther away from my mom than the already 2 hour distance. We actually have a lifelong pact: where she goes I go, and vice versa. I simply want her in my life every step of the way. She is truly my best friend. We have gone through so much together--I've been there for her at her worst times and she for me. We have a bond that is unbelievably strong. I don't want to sound boastful..it's just that I am filled with pride...I am so lucky to have her as a mother. Heck, she is lucky to have me for a daughter too! Hee hee.

Oh, well, I am getting too 'deep' in my thoughts...I have to stop being so negative about this...who knows? maybe , hopefully, that "where I go you go" pact could actually prompt her to take a look at my soon-to-be-validated thoughts about the JW's and just maybe she'll take an objective look for herself. Can't hurt to try, right?

Kat

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Which Bible to get?

by Kat_ in

i was just wondering: never in my life have i owned (or even read) a bible other than the nwt.

i really wish to study the bible but really do not wish to use this version.

after seeing the plethora of bibles out there i was wondering if there is any person here who can give me an un-biased opinion on which bible to get.

Kat_

Thanks Francois and Justamom for the additional comments and suggestions..and Woah! Hairdog! What an informative post! I thank you so much!

I am going to have to print this whole thread to read over again...and again...and again....lot's of information to digest. I am ever so greatful to all of you.

Thanks Again,

Kat

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